blonde poker forum
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
April 26, 2024, 03:53:40 PM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
2272595 Posts in 66755 Topics by 16946 Members
Latest Member: KobeTaylor
* Home Help Arcade Search Calendar Guidelines Login Register
+  blonde poker forum
|-+  Community Forums
| |-+  The Lounge
| | |-+  Martin McGuinness
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3 Go Down Print
Author Topic: Martin McGuinness  (Read 6414 times)
PokerBroker
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1189



View Profile
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2017, 08:46:17 PM »

Some utter tripe posted on here as usual and from a very insulated situation.  

The British Army had no right in Ireland, never has had any right in Ireland and never can have any right in Ireland.  

The occupied 6 counties were gerrymandered for generations, and in every generation were young Irishmen who fought the foreign oppressor to take control of their country and unite it.  

I am no fan of Martin McGuinness, I once was.  But I believe some of his latter day actions of taking it tight and pallying up to the british establishment to preserve peace were wrong. I think today's coverage on the BBC shows why the GFA wasn't a good deal for Republicans or nationalists.  

The contrast between McGuinness and Mandela is telling, the same folk claiming Mandella was a freedom fighter yet McGuinness a terrorist.  Both were fighting a struggle on behalf of their people.  It was a war and in war there are casualties.  But lets get one thing straight the war was orchestrated by the british security services.  

Bloody Sunday, The Dublin and Monaghan Bombings, McGurks Bar, Widow Scanlons, Pat Finucane, Rosemary Nelson.  They are just a few of the attrocities that the Brits had a prominent part in.  

If there was no british involement in Northern Ireland there would have been no PIRA.  There would have been no fight for McGuinness to get involved in and he'd have just been a regular man working in regular times as a butcher.  

But they were no ordinary times and he was a hero of his people.  

Sealadaigh Abu!!

« Last Edit: March 21, 2017, 09:07:47 PM by PokerBroker » Logged
doubleup
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 7056


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2017, 08:55:38 PM »


1.01 landed
Logged
PokerBroker
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1189



View Profile
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2017, 09:09:15 PM »


1.01 landed

surprised it was that short to be honest. 

but some utter bollocks posted by a few.
Logged
Mohican
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1164



View Profile WWW
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2017, 09:35:08 PM »


1.01 landed

surprised it was that short to be honest. 

but some utter bollocks posted by a few.
You need to include yourself in that,esp when you finish  with a Provo salutation.From what I read, you actively condone  acts of terrorism.
P.S. I have no time for those terrorists from the UDA/UFF/UVF. Equally abominable people.
P.P.S I expect this thread to close real soon.
Logged

Cymru am byth
doubleup
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 7056


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2017, 09:42:05 PM »


1.01 landed

surprised it was that short to be honest. 

but some utter bollocks posted by a few.

just to clarify, I was referring to this


kmac can come on later and say he's a hero and all that guff.

I have no strong opinion on your or mohican's post.  
Logged
Mohican
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1164



View Profile WWW
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2017, 09:50:23 PM »


1.01 landed

surprised it was that short to be honest. 

but some utter bollocks posted by a few.

just to clarify, I was referring to this


kmac can come on later and say he's a hero and all that guff.

I have no strong opinion on your or mohican's post.  

Double up- my post wasn't aimed at you. Sorry if you thought that.
Logged

Cymru am byth
The Camel
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 17523


Under my tree, being a troll.


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2017, 09:59:52 PM »

Both the British government/military and the IRA sides committed some absolutely reprehensible acts.

Without Martin McGuinness's leadership it's very likely the conflict would still be ongoing.

May he rest in peace.
Logged

Congratulations to the 2012 League Champion - Stapleton Atheists

"Keith The Camel, a true champion!" - Brent Horner 30th December 2012

"I dont think you're a wanker Keith" David Nicholson 4th March 2013
Mohican
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1164



View Profile WWW
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2017, 10:07:36 PM »

Both the British government/military and the IRA sides committed some absolutely reprehensible acts.

Without Martin McGuinness's leadership it's very likely the conflict would still be ongoing.

May he rest in peace.
His leadership is why the terrorism went on for so long.
Logged

Cymru am byth
neeko
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1762


View Profile WWW
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2017, 10:14:20 PM »

This thread should be locked
Logged

There is no problem so bad that a politician cant make it worse.

http://www.dec.org.uk
Woodsey
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 15846



View Profile
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2017, 10:15:47 PM »

This thread should be locked

Spoilsport  Cheesy
Logged
celtic
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 19112



View Profile
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2017, 10:17:46 PM »

This thread should be locked

Why?
Logged

Keefy is back Smiley But for how long?
nirvana
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 7804



View Profile
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2017, 10:19:50 PM »

Both the British government/military and the IRA sides committed some absolutely reprehensible acts.

Without Martin McGuinness's leadership it's very likely the conflict would still be ongoing.

May he rest in peace.
His leadership is why the terrorism went on for so long.

In a historical context this can't be true. Terribly emotive issue and deeply historic with 'troubles' to one extent or another for over 500 years.

At a time when we have the ability to kill/terrorise more people more quickly and efficiently than ever McGuiness, with many others, has actually led things in a different direction.

If I'd been directly impacted I may find this hard to acknowledge and I might not forgive him for past acts. I wouldn't want to canonise or lionise him but I would be ignoring the facts if I didn't acknowledge that he has helped bring peace about and, again, in historical terms, been responsible in part for the avoidance of 1000s ?  more deaths.

I take Micko's ticket earlier in the thread with the quote along the lines that it isn't how you start out but how you finish life.
Logged

sola virtus nobilitat
neeko
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1762


View Profile WWW
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2017, 10:22:46 PM »

This thread should be locked

Why?

People's feelings on this topic are too strong, it will degenerate into a shouting match over the evening as more alcohol is consumed.
Logged

There is no problem so bad that a politician cant make it worse.

http://www.dec.org.uk
PokerBroker
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1189



View Profile
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2017, 10:34:22 PM »

Both the British government/military and the IRA sides committed some absolutely reprehensible acts.

Without Martin McGuinness's leadership it's very likely the conflict would still be ongoing.

May he rest in peace.
His leadership is why the terrorism went on for so long.

Really?

nothing to do with an occupying force committing atrocities?

The flip side is there are many who believe MMcG was a double agent.  If true that makes Britains involvement even worse.
Logged
PokerBroker
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1189



View Profile
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2017, 10:57:28 PM »


”The terrorist is always the one with the smaller bomb.” – Brendan Behan

Quite an apt quote given his passing was remembered yesterday, I don't think anything has changed in the 43 years since Brendan's death.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3 Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.169 seconds with 20 queries.