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« on: July 21, 2017, 02:26:14 PM »

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details

BTN: $10.91 (109.1 bb)
SB: $8.43 (84.3 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $11.40 (114 bb)
UTG+2: $5.94 (59.4 bb)
MP1: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
Hero (MP2): $10.42 (104.2 bb)
MP3: $14.86 (148.6 bb)
CO: $22.17 (221.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K K
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.10, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.35) 8 7 4 (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.90, CO raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.60

Turn: ($6.35) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.90, Hero?

No reads. Anyone believe Kings is still good here? I wonder if I should have folded the flop raise but seemed too nitty.


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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2017, 10:51:06 AM »

i wouldnt be folding overpairs in this spot when he calls your cbet with a set a lot of the time. id also like to squeeze bigger preflop to like 50c.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2017, 03:37:40 PM »

As a rule of thumb @ 100bbs I Iso 3x + x.. e.g. So to 0.40 in this instance... although at 10nl people are gonna be peeling wider so 0.50 seems better. Jam turn vs his bet imo.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2017, 10:46:24 AM »

Pre-flop, good point I think.

You really have no worries about the big check-raise? I'm sure at $10 Zoom this screams trips more often than not, but my sample size is not very big.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2017, 10:59:48 AM »

If you are folding KK you're basically folding everything bar QQ on the turn
I assume you wouldn't squeeze or 56 combos preflop so you basically have one of the best
Hands possible. If you fold this spot people can make the same play vs you with impunity
As you never have a hand to call
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 05:31:54 PM »

If you are folding KK you're basically folding everything bar QQ on the turn
I assume you wouldn't squeeze or 56 combos preflop so you basically have one of the best
Hands possible. If you fold this spot people can make the same play vs you with impunity
As you never have a hand to call

You're def right, but i just don't think our villain is going to have a sample size against us or generally be thinking this way at nl10. There's 2 players to act behind as well after he raises and his turn sizing suggests he's not particularly worried about the strength of his hand. I'd be willing to make an exploitable fold on the turn.

It's basic, but that's nl10 zoom. Full of nutpeddlers and people who will play sets exactly like sets lol. I've only played 6m but i can imagine full ring being even worse.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2017, 11:46:11 AM »

I agree with MTN, make an exploitable fold on the turn.

In this sort of game, I would imagine that players are raising more for value than bluffs, and villain is just screaming strength.

Co can have flopped the nuts with 56 suited, or flopped top two with 78 suited, or more likely flopped a set, he has every set there.

Pre flop you can also go quite a bit bigger, limpers like to see flops charge them for it!
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2017, 05:33:09 PM »

4 ways i think this is a flop check, call down bricks. as played probably call
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