Back in the day when I used to read about this kind of stuff, I seem to recall that 10bb ph is a reasonable figure, more at very small stakes and less at higher ones.
If I'm wrong, (very likely) I'm sure someone will be along shortly to put both of us straight.
back in the day that was for sure correct. and still roughly is correct now depending on the format/stakes.
online high stakes if you win at 1bb/100 you are doing well. lower stakes you can still manage 5+
live will be different and higher but also completely farcical because your measure is over 100 hands which is what 5 hours + of play live