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« Reply #270 on: February 26, 2019, 06:04:35 PM »

Wonder how much more dollar we could give nurses if we didn’t have to prosecute and incarcerate all these irrelevant terror lovers.

If we didn’t need surveillance and protection against terror prob be a much bigger public purse.
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« Reply #271 on: February 26, 2019, 07:04:38 PM »

Wonder how much more dollar we could give nurses if we didn’t have to prosecute and incarcerate all these irrelevant terror lovers.

If we didn’t need surveillance and protection against terror prob be a much bigger public purse.

Indeed this, and whilst it may not affect the vast majority of us, what about those poor families that have been affected by the actions of these terrorists. I am sure they would gladly work with 2% less in their pay packet to know their family are safe rather than dead.
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« Reply #272 on: February 26, 2019, 07:29:21 PM »

Wonder how much more dollar we could give nurses if we didn’t have to prosecute and incarcerate all these irrelevant terror lovers.

If we didn’t need surveillance and protection against terror prob be a much bigger public purse.

Indeed this, and whilst it may not affect the vast majority of us, what about those poor families that have been affected by the actions of these terrorists. I am sure they would gladly work with 2% less in their pay packet to know their family are safe rather than dead.


solid value for money; 2% of everybody's paypacket to deal with this fuck up.

Would be interesting to see the difference in cost between improsining and/or monitoring "ISIS Bride" vs the costs of the inevitable legal action and then having to imprison/monitor "ISIS Bride" bride anyway.   Dare say there won't be any payrises for nurses as a result of this. Still, at least Sajid Javid gets to look tough, albeit at the expense of looking intelligent.
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« Reply #273 on: February 26, 2019, 08:02:33 PM »

Wonder how much more dollar we could give nurses if we didn’t have to prosecute and incarcerate all these irrelevant terror lovers.

If we didn’t need surveillance and protection against terror prob be a much bigger public purse.

Indeed this, and whilst it may not affect the vast majority of us, what about those poor families that have been affected by the actions of these terrorists. I am sure they would gladly work with 2% less in their pay packet to know their family are safe rather than dead.


solid value for money; 2% of everybody's paypacket to deal with this fuck up.

Would be interesting to see the difference in cost between improsining and/or monitoring "ISIS Bride" vs the costs of the inevitable legal action and then having to imprison/monitor "ISIS Bride" bride anyway.   Dare say there won't be any payrises for nurses as a result of this. Still, at least Sajid Javid gets to look tough, albeit at the expense of looking intelligent.

I don't claim to research my comments though. Wink
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« Reply #274 on: February 26, 2019, 08:16:46 PM »

Wonder how much more dollar we could give nurses if we didn’t have to prosecute and incarcerate all these irrelevant terror lovers.

If we didn’t need surveillance and protection against terror prob be a much bigger public purse.

Indeed this, and whilst it may not affect the vast majority of us, what about those poor families that have been affected by the actions of these terrorists. I am sure they would gladly work with 2% less in their pay packet to know their family are safe rather than dead.


solid value for money; 2% of everybody's paypacket to deal with this fuck up.

Would be interesting to see the difference in cost between improsining and/or monitoring "ISIS Bride" vs the costs of the inevitable legal action and then having to imprison/monitor "ISIS Bride" bride anyway.   Dare say there won't be any payrises for nurses as a result of this. Still, at least Sajid Javid gets to look tough, albeit at the expense of looking intelligent.

I don't claim to research my comments though. Wink

But your research is still as good as though who google the answer they are looking for.....  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #275 on: February 26, 2019, 09:55:42 PM »

Wonder how much more dollar we could give nurses if we didn’t have to prosecute and incarcerate all these irrelevant terror lovers.

If we didn’t need surveillance and protection against terror prob be a much bigger public purse.

Indeed this, and whilst it may not affect the vast majority of us, what about those poor families that have been affected by the actions of these terrorists. I am sure they would gladly work with 2% less in their pay packet to know their family are safe rather than dead.


solid value for money; 2% of everybody's paypacket to deal with this fuck up.

Would be interesting to see the difference in cost between improsining and/or monitoring "ISIS Bride" vs the costs of the inevitable legal action and then having to imprison/monitor "ISIS Bride" bride anyway.   Dare say there won't be any payrises for nurses as a result of this. Still, at least Sajid Javid gets to look tough, albeit at the expense of looking intelligent.


A far better solution would be to honour Sajids ruling and keep this known terrorist sympathiser out of our country and not get involved in civil/legal battles full stop. But, of course, some people want her  to get a fair trial, just to establish what we already know. Sigh...
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« Reply #276 on: February 26, 2019, 10:19:45 PM »

Wonder how much more dollar we could give nurses if we didn’t have to prosecute and incarcerate all these irrelevant terror lovers.

If we didn’t need surveillance and protection against terror prob be a much bigger public purse.

Indeed this, and whilst it may not affect the vast majority of us, what about those poor families that have been affected by the actions of these terrorists. I am sure they would gladly work with 2% less in their pay packet to know their family are safe rather than dead.


solid value for money; 2% of everybody's paypacket to deal with this fuck up.

Would be interesting to see the difference in cost between improsining and/or monitoring "ISIS Bride" vs the costs of the inevitable legal action and then having to imprison/monitor "ISIS Bride" bride anyway.   Dare say there won't be any payrises for nurses as a result of this. Still, at least Sajid Javid gets to look tough, albeit at the expense of looking intelligent.


A far better solution would be to honour Sajids ruling and keep this known terrorist sympathiser out of our country and not get involved in civil/legal battles full stop. But, of course, some people want her  to get a fair trial, just to establish what we already know. Sigh...


The thing is, her having a fair trial is the only thing that ensures that you and I would get one too should we ever need it.

It will be a sorry state of affairs if the government or the public for that matter start deciding who is and who is not entitled to a fair trial.
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« Reply #277 on: February 27, 2019, 07:18:37 AM »

During her fair trial what evidence could you present about her activities in Syria? What Syrian witnesses could you call to the stand?

If you cannot investigate properly, cannot present accurate evidence, cannot present witnesses, if the crimes took place in another country...what exactly would be fair about the trial?
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« Reply #278 on: February 27, 2019, 07:36:05 AM »

During her fair trial what evidence could you present about her activities in Syria? What Syrian witnesses could you call to the stand?

If you cannot investigate properly, cannot present accurate evidence, cannot present witnesses, if the crimes took place in another country...what exactly would be fair about the trial?

So we should go with Guilty until proven Innocent when we feel like it?

Don't you think there should be some evidence of a crime being committed before people get a sentence passed on them?
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« Reply #279 on: February 27, 2019, 07:44:56 AM »

During her fair trial what evidence could you present about her activities in Syria? What Syrian witnesses could you call to the stand?

If you cannot investigate properly, cannot present accurate evidence, cannot present witnesses, if the crimes took place in another country...what exactly would be fair about the trial?

So we should go with Guilty until proven Innocent when we feel like it?

Don't you think there should be some evidence of a crime being committed before people get a sentence passed on them?

Do you not think the very fact she went to aid and abet these scumbags is crime enough.

Do people never get jailed or punished for intent?

I think we all have enough evidence to know what the intent is.

Yes, I understand the point about, wouldn't I like a fair trial, but if I don't show the clear intent that this woman has, then I would expect a fair trial.

Let us not forget, she also wiped her hands of this country, claiming what a shite place it is, no juctice, fairness etc. Why disappoint her?
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« Reply #280 on: February 27, 2019, 07:57:00 AM »

During her fair trial what evidence could you present about her activities in Syria? What Syrian witnesses could you call to the stand?

If you cannot investigate properly, cannot present accurate evidence, cannot present witnesses, if the crimes took place in another country...what exactly would be fair about the trial?

So we should go with Guilty until proven Innocent when we feel like it?

Don't you think there should be some evidence of a crime being committed before people get a sentence passed on them?

There are different principles in a war situation as opposed to a normal society situation
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« Reply #281 on: February 27, 2019, 03:20:37 PM »

"Our targets provide some fantastic reactions and conversations... bringing out the inner child in all," a spokesperson said.


Fuck me! Is this what they think children should be like?



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« Reply #282 on: February 27, 2019, 11:16:25 PM »

Wonder how much more dollar we could give nurses if we didn’t have to prosecute and incarcerate all these irrelevant terror lovers.

If we didn’t need surveillance and protection against terror prob be a much bigger public purse.

Indeed this, and whilst it may not affect the vast majority of us, what about those poor families that have been affected by the actions of these terrorists. I am sure they would gladly work with 2% less in their pay packet to know their family are safe rather than dead.

No surprise to see Adz agree with your simplistic point, Mantis.

Imagine how much if every business didn’t hide their true revenues, if super rich taxed more, coperation tax, Mp’s lower salary, lower benefits, etc, etc.

Completely simplistic to even to think this.
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« Reply #283 on: February 28, 2019, 07:15:31 AM »

I imagine if we tax the super rich more they’d move to another country and we’d be overall worse off
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« Reply #284 on: February 28, 2019, 07:43:19 AM »

Wonder how much more dollar we could give nurses if we didn’t have to prosecute and incarcerate all these irrelevant terror lovers.

If we didn’t need surveillance and protection against terror prob be a much bigger public purse.

Indeed this, and whilst it may not affect the vast majority of us, what about those poor families that have been affected by the actions of these terrorists. I am sure they would gladly work with 2% less in their pay packet to know their family are safe rather than dead.

No surprise to see Adz agree with your simplistic point, Mantis.

Imagine how much if every business didn’t hide their true revenues, if super rich taxed more, coperation tax, Mp’s lower salary, lower benefits, etc, etc.

Completely simplistic to even to think this.

“Every” business hides their revenues?  I love the fact the person that wrote this accuses someone else of being simplistic.
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