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« Reply #90 on: February 17, 2019, 11:05:26 AM »

Playing devil's advocate here somewhat, but has the religious aspect been slightly overlooked here?

The idea of living in an ultra-orthodox caliphate might well have been a key selling-point in persuading deeply religious Muslims to travel to Syria.
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« Reply #91 on: February 17, 2019, 12:00:05 PM »

Playing devil's advocate here somewhat, but has the religious aspect been slightly overlooked here?

The idea of living in an ultra-orthodox caliphate might well have been a key selling-point in persuading deeply religious Muslims to travel to Syria.

Can a 15yr old be said to hold their own deeply religious views? The sense that these young people have been groomed and manipulated is very real.
We probably all held beliefs at 15 that we now see as being wrong. Even BigArz probably had some socialist tendencies in his teens.

We should continue to demonstrate our tolerance and to act as an example of all that is good in Western society. How else can we overcome the excessively intolerant nature of the ‘ultra-orthodox caliphate’.

I’m not suggesting that any specific individual should avoid investigation and possible prosecution for their actions btw. Just saying that before we exile this British citizen we better make damn sure that we have both a good reason for doing so, and a legal framework that allows us to do so.
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« Reply #92 on: February 17, 2019, 01:22:49 PM »


The young lady is no longer pregnant - she has given birth to the child.
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« Reply #93 on: February 17, 2019, 02:49:41 PM »


The young lady is no longer pregnant - she has given birth to the child.

That'll mean a council-house then..
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« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2019, 05:35:40 PM »


The young lady is no longer pregnant - she has given birth to the child.

That'll mean a council-house then..

Her parents have already said that they want  her and the baby back at their home.
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« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2019, 06:10:15 PM »

Playing devil's advocate here somewhat, but has the religious aspect been slightly overlooked here?

The idea of living in an ultra-orthodox caliphate might well have been a key selling-point in persuading deeply religious Muslims to travel to Syria.

Can a 15yr old be said to hold their own deeply religious views? The sense that these young people have been groomed and manipulated is very real.
We probably all held beliefs at 15 that we now see as being wrong. Even BigArz probably had some socialist tendencies in his teens.

We should continue to demonstrate our tolerance and to act as an example of all that is good in Western society. How else can we overcome the excessively intolerant nature of the ‘ultra-orthodox caliphate’.

I’m not suggesting that any specific individual should avoid investigation and possible prosecution for their actions btw. Just saying that before we exile this British citizen we better make damn sure that we have both a good reason for doing so, and a legal framework that allows us to do so.


It's alright Dodgy Dave. Let's all get blown up before we judge anyone.

Quick enough to judge people on here, but prepared to see the best in an ISIS girl.

Says it all really
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« Reply #96 on: February 17, 2019, 06:48:29 PM »

Playing devil's advocate here somewhat, but has the religious aspect been slightly overlooked here?

The idea of living in an ultra-orthodox caliphate might well have been a key selling-point in persuading deeply religious Muslims to travel to Syria.

Can a 15yr old be said to hold their own deeply religious views? The sense that these young people have been groomed and manipulated is very real.
We probably all held beliefs at 15 that we now see as being wrong. Even BigArz probably had some socialist tendencies in his teens.

We should continue to demonstrate our tolerance and to act as an example of all that is good in Western society. How else can we overcome the excessively intolerant nature of the ‘ultra-orthodox caliphate’.

I’m not suggesting that any specific individual should avoid investigation and possible prosecution for their actions btw. Just saying that before we exile this British citizen we better make damn sure that we have both a good reason for doing so, and a legal framework that allows us to do so.


It's alright Dodgy Dave. Let's all get blown up before we judge anyone.

Quick enough to judge people on here, but prepared to see the best in an ISIS girl.

Says it all really

37 people killed by terrorists in our country since 2010. You do seem overly worried about us all being blown up.

https://fullfact.org/health/austerity-120000-unnecessary-deaths/
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« Reply #97 on: February 17, 2019, 07:17:11 PM »

Playing devil's advocate here somewhat, but has the religious aspect been slightly overlooked here?

The idea of living in an ultra-orthodox caliphate might well have been a key selling-point in persuading deeply religious Muslims to travel to Syria.

Can a 15yr old be said to hold their own deeply religious views? The sense that these young people have been groomed and manipulated is very real.
We probably all held beliefs at 15 that we now see as being wrong. Even BigArz probably had some socialist tendencies in his teens.

We should continue to demonstrate our tolerance and to act as an example of all that is good in Western society. How else can we overcome the excessively intolerant nature of the ‘ultra-orthodox caliphate’.

I’m not suggesting that any specific individual should avoid investigation and possible prosecution for their actions btw. Just saying that before we exile this British citizen we better make damn sure that we have both a good reason for doing so, and a legal framework that allows us to do so.


It's alright Dodgy Dave. Let's all get blown up before we judge anyone.

Quick enough to judge people on here, but prepared to see the best in an ISIS girl.

Says it all really

37 people killed by terrorists in our country since 2010. You do seem overly worried about us all being blown up.

https://fullfact.org/health/austerity-120000-unnecessary-deaths/

Kush, you’ll be telling us that a democratically elected UK government is a bigger threat than ISIS next.
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« Reply #98 on: February 17, 2019, 07:21:52 PM »

The document Kush posted stated in the opening paragraphs that the findings should be viewed with caution as no link had been proven.

I stopped reading at that point to be honest.
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« Reply #99 on: February 17, 2019, 07:33:12 PM »

The document Kush posted stated in the opening paragraphs that the findings should be viewed with caution as no link had been proven.

I stopped reading at that point to be honest.

Seems odd to stop reading there. How will you get to know more? We measure people killed by terrorists in tens, we measure people killed by austerity in tens of thousands, the article is only pointing out that it’s hard to pinpoint how many tens of thousands.

No link being proven is obviously laughable, as discussed ad nauseam previously. If we doubt that, let’s try not having doctors/ambulances/hospitals/environmental regulation/police/fire service etc. We might save money....
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« Reply #100 on: February 17, 2019, 07:39:51 PM »

Playing devil's advocate here somewhat, but has the religious aspect been slightly overlooked here?

The idea of living in an ultra-orthodox caliphate might well have been a key selling-point in persuading deeply religious Muslims to travel to Syria.

Can a 15yr old be said to hold their own deeply religious views? The sense that these young people have been groomed and manipulated is very real.
We probably all held beliefs at 15 that we now see as being wrong. Even BigArz probably had some socialist tendencies in his teens.

We should continue to demonstrate our tolerance and to act as an example of all that is good in Western society. How else can we overcome the excessively intolerant nature of the ‘ultra-orthodox caliphate’.

I’m not suggesting that any specific individual should avoid investigation and possible prosecution for their actions btw. Just saying that before we exile this British citizen we better make damn sure that we have both a good reason for doing so, and a legal framework that allows us to do so.


It's alright Dodgy Dave. Let's all get blown up before we judge anyone.

Quick enough to judge people on here, but prepared to see the best in an ISIS girl.

Says it all really

37 people killed by terrorists in our country since 2010. You do seem overly worried about us all being blown up.

https://fullfact.org/health/austerity-120000-unnecessary-deaths/

Kush, you’ll be telling us that a democratically elected UK government is a bigger threat than ISIS next.

The problem with a ‘threat’ is it means we have to predict the future, we’re all terrible at that. We could just count how many of our citizens they killed, even allowing for the inevitable gross inaccuracies, it’s interesting.
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« Reply #101 on: February 17, 2019, 07:41:11 PM »

The document Kush posted stated in the opening paragraphs that the findings should be viewed with caution as no link had been proven.

I stopped reading at that point to be honest.

Seems odd to stop reading there. How will you get to know more? We measure people killed by terrorists in tens, we measure people killed by austerity in tens of thousands, the article is only pointing out that it’s hard to pinpoint how many tens of thousands.

No link being proven is obviously laughable, as discussed ad nauseam previously. If we doubt that, let’s try not having doctors/ambulances/hospitals/environmental regulation/police/fire service etc. We might save money....


Ah yes, austerity. Forced upon us because of the Viv Nicholson Labour govt that you so cherish.

This isn't about austerity. Yes we understand the issues, and yes, probably far more people have been lost to it. However not because anyone WANTED to kill them.

You moan about me suggesting how people feel. It's no different to you quoting articles with no substance.
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« Reply #102 on: February 17, 2019, 07:47:00 PM »

The document Kush posted stated in the opening paragraphs that the findings should be viewed with caution as no link had been proven.

I stopped reading at that point to be honest.

Seems odd to stop reading there. How will you get to know more? We measure people killed by terrorists in tens, we measure people killed by austerity in tens of thousands, the article is only pointing out that it’s hard to pinpoint how many tens of thousands.

No link being proven is obviously laughable, as discussed ad nauseam previously. If we doubt that, let’s try not having doctors/ambulances/hospitals/environmental regulation/police/fire service etc. We might save money....


Ah yes, austerity. Forced upon us because of the Viv Nicholson Labour govt that you so cherish.

This isn't about austerity. Yes we understand the issues, and yes, probably far more people have been lost to it. However not because anyone WANTED to kill them.

You moan about me suggesting how people feel. It's no different to you quoting articles with no substance.

I don’t and never have cherished any government. What a strange thing to say.

The article linked contradicts my point, whilst also acknowledging the obvious truth of the massive numbers of austerity related deaths. Are we saying they didn’t know decimating public services would kill loads of people? Seems weird that they didn’t think of it, it’s kind of important.
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« Reply #103 on: February 17, 2019, 08:53:03 PM »

Direct and indirect.

I have had to cut peoples salary before and hoped they could adjust to make things work. If they suffered, it was not intentional, but as a result of other factors out of my control.

I have never gone out to kill someone because they don't believe in the same things I do.
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« Reply #104 on: February 17, 2019, 09:06:30 PM »

The amount of people actually killed by terrorists is a weird way to measure the threat of terror. Think we probably need to include all the foiled attempts and ongoing plots to gain an accurate appraisal. Actually if you consider how much dollar we spend on intelligence and preventative measures battling terror it would be a big boost to social services if funds were diverted. So I guess dealing with this troublesome ISIS sympathiser alone will cost needy families vital support. Buy hey we don’t know that she’s actually cut heads off so no worries.
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