schoolgirl who joined IS but wants to come home.

[RED-DOG]

Interesting thread.

Guess Bigadz if it was your daughter who’d be groomed by Muslims you’d have exactly the same view. She made her bed- let her rot?

I have never had kids for 2 reasons.

Mainly too selfish with my own time, but because I still believe in some fairly draconian principles, that sadly have been lost in today's society.

All are based around being a good citizen then no one can touch you.

No. I would wash my hands of her and not just change my opinion because she was my kid.

Can tell you’ve not got kids. You can’t just wash your hands of your own flesh and blood.

Point is I get the concerns over security but can’t help but feel is this was a white girl who had been groomed by Muslim men things would be different.

Oh FFs, here we go

Had to switch off after this.

Its very easy to play race card to these days when you can't/won't understand another point of view, and hope everyone is too scared to argue in case they get further tainted.

Sorry. What exactly do you think would be different? That we would be saying "poor girl, come on home and all is forgiven?"

I think I'm on your side in this in principle, although I do believe that we have to allow her back at the end of the day. After all, she's a Brit, it's our mess, we have to take responsibility)

However, you seem to think that people who don't agree with you "can't/won't understand another point of view"

Well I'm sure George and everyone else understands your point of view, they just don't agree.

It would be just as easy for them to say you don't/won't understand theirs.

I understand your point, but I think we both know it's not really about the agreeing with a principle or not, its the dragging the race card out when we don't agree that I disapprove of and was trying to make a point about in this instance.

Is it me, or does that have absolutely nothing to do with what I said?

[engy]

Just said on the news they are stripping her of British citizenship

[RED-DOG]

Just said on the news they are stripping her of British citizenship

Wow!

I'm really surprised. I didn't think we would make anyone stateless.

[tikay]

Just said on the news they are stripping her of British citizenship

Wow, just wow, if true.

[Juperjiper]

Great news

[Woodsey]

Great news

Racist!    

[George2Loose]

I’ve already said I can see both viewpoints several times. For me whatever decision is taken it’s not easy.

My view is if this was a young white woman who was radacalised and her parents were pleading for her return the view from the public would be more balanced

[Woodsey]

I’ve already said I can see both viewpoints several times. For me whatever decision is taken it’s not easy.

My view is if this was a young white woman who was radacalised and her parents were pleading for her return the view from the public would be more balanced

I wouldn’t, I’d fuck her off just as quickly, a traitor is a traitor no matter what colour you are.

[DungBeetle]

I ampleased the government is telling her to do one but I suspect they may lose a long drawn out appeals process of whether they are able to leave someone stateless.

[Juperjiper]

I ampleased the government is telling her to do one but I suspect they may lose a long drawn out appeals process of whether they are able to leave someone stateless.

Her husband is Dutch, they might want her

[MANTIS01]

Won't be able to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights tho.

Another advantage of Brexit.   

[Doobs]

Why are people so pleased; if the Government thinks it is ok to render her stateless, they also think it is OK to render you stateless?  

Is nobody worried that our elected home secretary has so little regard for the law?  

She really seems a strange person to break the precedent on.   There are far worse people in our prisons.  Do we deprive them of UK citizenship too?  

And maybe, just maybe, there are still some people who believe the Conservatives have good intentions; what happens when this new power is in the hands of someone who we don't trust?  

[MANTIS01]

If you don't join ISIS you should be ok tho

[Pokerpops]

All a bit odd though. According to the reports the Home Secretary wrote to the parents and asked them to let her know.

Is this the way we do things now?

Plus, this

Why are people so pleased; if the Government thinks it is ok to render her stateless, they also think it is OK to render you stateless?  

Is nobody worried that our elected home secretary has so little regard for the law?  

She really seems a strange person to break the precedent on.   There are far worse people in our prisons.  Do we deprive them of UK citizenship too?  

And maybe, just maybe, there are still some people who believe the Conservatives have good intentions; what happens when this new power is in the hands of someone who we don't trust?  

[kukushkin88]

Why are people so pleased; if the Government thinks it is ok to render her stateless, they also think it is OK to render you stateless?  

Is nobody worried that our elected home secretary has so little regard for the law?  

She really seems a strange person to break the precedent on.   There are far worse people in our prisons.  Do we deprive them of UK citizenship too?  

And maybe, just maybe, there are still some people who believe the Conservatives have good intentions; what happens when this new power is in the hands of someone who we don't trust?  

Having made such a contemptible mess of Brexit, they need to pander to the far right more than ever. This is ideal for that.

It’s a truly extraordinary decision, if she doesn’t get interviewed in the camp by The Times, she in all likelihood comes home with a minimum of fuss. Now she’ll be the first ever to have their nationality rescinded. My first assumption was that she’d be coming home to face charges/potential incarceration. Seems like a very good chance she hasn’t broken a law of any consequence though. This government has done some extraordinary things, loads of it against the grain of so much of the progress of the last 75 years.