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« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2021, 12:38:50 PM »

For those that think financial checks are the way forward - do not be surprised or have your feelings hurt - when down the road you go into a restaurant, off license, pub or even to book a holiday and they ask to see your financial situation and if you can afford it or should you be putting that money into a pension for your old age rather than buying that bottle of gin.

Come to think of it we should ban people like me from buying racehorses and greyhounds - as very few of us see a return - then we could shut down a lot of the football clubs who if it was not for their owners and supporters, most are in deficit, rugby clubs et al - anything that will potentially lose money - shut it down.

Lets close down these investment platforms 90 percent lose their money - why do we not ban risk completely - thus no more births - no people - no risk.

Since after WW2 we have become a world that likes to introduce more regulations and rules - strange we now have more poverty - more kids cant read or write, the gap between the rich and poor has grown - for those Sci Fi readers - remember the things people laughed at (that will never happen) mobile phones - video calls - space travel - the list is endless - perhaps George Orwell was on to something.  

I don't really get your point here at all?


What I think he's saying, and I hope he'll forgive me if I'm wrong, is that you have to be very careful about letting go of one freedom because more often than not it leads to the loss of several others.




    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Spoilt it by claiming there was more poverty and illiteracy.  I'd dispute the freedoms point is valid here, as restrictions on gambling have been far worse in the not too distant past.  So little poverty these days that people are turning down rakeback.   I will give him the gap between rich and poor

And not sure your jews point really works when it is Soros and the Rothschilds that are taking away all our freedoms :/

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« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2021, 12:48:22 PM »

For those that think financial checks are the way forward - do not be surprised or have your feelings hurt - when down the road you go into a restaurant, off license, pub or even to book a holiday and they ask to see your financial situation and if you can afford it or should you be putting that money into a pension for your old age rather than buying that bottle of gin.

Come to think of it we should ban people like me from buying racehorses and greyhounds - as very few of us see a return - then we could shut down a lot of the football clubs who if it was not for their owners and supporters, most are in deficit, rugby clubs et al - anything that will potentially lose money - shut it down.

Lets close down these investment platforms 90 percent lose their money - why do we not ban risk completely - thus no more births - no people - no risk.

Since after WW2 we have become a world that likes to introduce more regulations and rules - strange we now have more poverty - more kids cant read or write, the gap between the rich and poor has grown - for those Sci Fi readers - remember the things people laughed at (that will never happen) mobile phones - video calls - space travel - the list is endless - perhaps George Orwell was on to something.  

I don't really get your point here at all?


What I think he's saying, and I hope he'll forgive me if I'm wrong, is that you have to be very careful about letting go of one freedom because more often than not it leads to the loss of several others.




    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Spoilt it by claiming there was more poverty and illiteracy.  I'd dispute the freedoms point is valid here, as restrictions on gambling have been far worse in the not too distant past.  So little poverty these days that people are turning down rakeback.   I will give him the gap between rich and poor

And not sure your jews point really works when it is Soros and the Rothschilds that are taking away all our freedoms :/







Fair comment, it was a bit of a stretch.

I was just trying to say that people who don't gamble will think that these rules won't affect them but somewhere down the line, they will.
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« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2021, 01:30:37 PM »

Red Dog 10/10  ----- Food Banks - World Poverty is definitely on the increase - society trying to cancel out people who do not share their views (questions for another day).

Regulations - can have a damaging effect as well as a positive - if it is your hard earnt money or inherited you should be able to spend it on how you see fit - if you have a gambling problem there are many services out there to help you with your problem -

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« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2021, 03:20:21 PM »

Red Dog 10/10  ----- Food Banks - World Poverty is definitely on the increase - society trying to cancel out people who do not share their views (questions for another day).

Regulations - can have a damaging effect as well as a positive - if it is your hard earnt money or inherited you should be able to spend it on how you see fit - if you have a gambling problem there are many services out there to help you with your problem -



I'm generally fairly libertarian in my views and totally get this viewpoint but you do pick some strange examples - global poverty is palpably an improving metric rather than a reducing one.

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« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2021, 03:33:44 PM »

Red Dog 10/10  ----- Food Banks - World Poverty is definitely on the increase - society trying to cancel out people who do not share their views (questions for another day).

Regulations - can have a damaging effect as well as a positive - if it is your hard earnt money or inherited you should be able to spend it on how you see fit - if you have a gambling problem there are many services out there to help you with your problem -



I'm generally fairly libertarian in my views and totally get this viewpoint but you do pick some strange examples - global poverty is palpably an improving metric rather than a reducing one.





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« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2021, 03:34:32 PM »

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« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2021, 04:37:12 PM »

For those that think financial checks are the way forward - do not be surprised or have your feelings hurt - when down the road you go into a restaurant, off license, pub or even to book a holiday and they ask to see your financial situation and if you can afford it or should you be putting that money into a pension for your old age rather than buying that bottle of gin.

Come to think of it we should ban people like me from buying racehorses and greyhounds - as very few of us see a return - then we could shut down a lot of the football clubs who if it was not for their owners and supporters, most are in deficit, rugby clubs et al - anything that will potentially lose money - shut it down.

Lets close down these investment platforms 90 percent lose their money - why do we not ban risk completely - thus no more births - no people - no risk.

Since after WW2 we have become a world that likes to introduce more regulations and rules - strange we now have more poverty - more kids cant read or write, the gap between the rich and poor has grown - for those Sci Fi readers - remember the things people laughed at (that will never happen) mobile phones - video calls - space travel - the list is endless - perhaps George Orwell was on to something.  

I don't really get your point here at all?


What I think he's saying, and I hope he'll forgive me if I'm wrong, is that you have to be very careful about letting go of one freedom because more often than not it leads to the loss of several others.




    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Spoilt it by claiming there was more poverty and illiteracy.  I'd dispute the freedoms point is valid here, as restrictions on gambling have been far worse in the not too distant past.  So little poverty these days that people are turning down rakeback.   I will give him the gap between rich and poor

And not sure your jews point really works when it is Soros and the Rothschilds that are taking away all our freedoms :/







Fair comment, it was a bit of a stretch.

I was just trying to say that people who don't gamble will think that these rules won't affect them but somewhere down the line, they will.


I always feel a little uncomfortable when Soros and the Rothschilds are put forward as examples of "Jews".

Not all Jews are fabulously wealthy nor do they all feel the same about topical issues, yet we always seem to be lumped together as one similar-minded group - The Jews are this, that or the other and when examples are needed it's always Soros or the Rothschilds rather than an atheist average Joe Schmo like me.
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« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2021, 05:12:11 PM »


He was being sarcastic, Ralph, "Soros" and "Rothschild" are anti-semitic dogwhistles.
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« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2021, 05:31:38 PM »


He was being sarcastic, Ralph, "Soros" and "Rothschild" are anti-semitic dogwhistles.

Apologies for not reading it in it's correct context and getting whooshed in that case.
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« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2021, 06:55:47 PM »

In my defence: it was Tom's straight-faced reply as though the comment were literal which set me off.
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« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2021, 07:29:44 PM »

In my defence: it was Tom's straight-faced reply as though the comment were literal which set me off.

Typical Tom, always starting something
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« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2021, 07:42:57 PM »

There is a new law coming that will make trespass a criminal offence, it is designed specifically to target Gypsies and Travellers.

Most people will think it's a great idea... Until they get on the wrong side of it.

A lot of talk about this on most walking/wild camping forums with the threat that landowners will use this to prevent walking/camping on their land.  Luckily in Scotland we have right to roam with basic rules for walkers/campers which works with few problems.

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« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2021, 07:47:29 PM »

There is a new law coming that will make trespass a criminal offence, it is designed specifically to target Gypsies and Travellers.

Most people will think it's a great idea... Until they get on the wrong side of it.

A lot of talk about this on most walking/wild camping forums with the threat that landowners will use this to prevent walking/camping on their land.  Luckily in Scotland we have right to roam with basic rules for walkers/campers which works with few problems.

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Wild camping also allowed in Scotland if I'm not mistaken Geo?
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« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2021, 07:49:20 PM »

I have a few hundred acres of beautiful woodland and wild meadows on my doorstep but you're not allowed to pitch a tent.
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« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2021, 08:09:43 PM »

In my defence: it was Tom's straight-faced reply as though the comment were literal which set me off.

I'm afraid I was no wiser than you Ralph.
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