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« Reply #150 on: March 06, 2006, 01:36:33 AM » |
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in recent times
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« Reply #151 on: March 06, 2006, 01:45:08 AM » |
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Collins was a true warrior, but truly felt he never wanted to fight Calzaghe. Hence retirement,never understood why?
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You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them." "Heart is what separates the good from the great. '
"All money is good, just the quantity makes it better"
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"Poker Players and Vultures are alike. They both live off the flesh of the weak"
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« Reply #152 on: March 06, 2006, 01:47:44 AM » |
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I may be wrong, but he may have had a head injury. I remember an interview with him about 4 years ago. He said he was advised by doctors to retire.
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« Reply #153 on: March 06, 2006, 02:06:54 AM » |
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Think that was when he attempted a comeback, may be wrong.
But when Calzaghe came onto the scene Collins never seemed enthusiastic about fighting him.
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You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them." "Heart is what separates the good from the great. '
"All money is good, just the quantity makes it better"
My Dad
"Poker Players and Vultures are alike. They both live off the flesh of the weak"
Tony Bolto
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« Reply #154 on: March 06, 2006, 02:09:30 AM » |
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Yea, I think you are right
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« Reply #155 on: March 06, 2006, 02:38:54 AM » |
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"what no hearns,hagler, duran or sugar ray?"
They were all prime at middleweight or below.
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« Reply #156 on: March 06, 2006, 01:38:29 PM » |
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"what no hearns,hagler, duran or sugar ray?"
They were all prime at middleweight or below.
Yeah - my rankings on those guys were at Supermiddle. (12st) |
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« Reply #157 on: March 06, 2006, 02:10:29 PM » |
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Jones
Calzaghe
Toney
Michalczewski
Eubank
Jones Toney Calzaghe Eubank (pre watson) Collins (only lost on points) |
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« Reply #158 on: March 06, 2006, 02:34:07 PM » |
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Its hard to compare boxers from different eras, but for me
Sugar Ray , his record speaks for itself.
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« Reply #159 on: March 06, 2006, 02:41:43 PM » |
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Leonard or Robinson? Although both of them made their name at lower weights not at Super Middleweight. IMO They both would have been eaten alive by Roy Jones JR
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« Reply #160 on: March 06, 2006, 02:49:00 PM » |
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Robinson, of course.  He might have made his name at welterweight, but his middleweight record is still formidable. |
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« Reply #161 on: March 06, 2006, 02:55:08 PM » |
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Robinson, of course. He might have made his name at welterweight, but his middleweight record is still formidable. I class Robinson as a Welterweight/Middleweight and his record is very good, but Marvin Hagler is the greatest Middleweight, with the best record, even better than the legend Robinson. |
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« Reply #162 on: March 06, 2006, 02:59:03 PM » |
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monzon pips hagler for me just
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"poker is like sex, everyone thinks they are the best but most don't know what they're doing"
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« Reply #163 on: March 06, 2006, 03:00:58 PM » |
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monzon pips hagler for me just
He has a good record but did he fight any of the greats? |
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« Reply #164 on: March 06, 2006, 03:06:23 PM » |
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unbeaten for 13 years
undisputed champ for 7yrs
emile grffiths and valdez were great
though ask me again tomorrow and i might say hagler
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