hi/lo ?

[snoopy1239]

You've got the nuts. Your opponent will have to pay a poor price to hit his draw.

Flat call here and you're playing passive poker.

He has the nuts, but could still be an underdog.

You can't worry about someone holding a monster every time you play a hand.

I'd fold almost every hand otherwise.

[Royal Flush]

Is this a windup thread?

[snoopy1239]

I'm beginning to wonder. 

If everyone is calling, then the pot is big.

You can bet big to push off all the draws.

If someone does have that 1 specific hand that you have identified, then so be it. You're still in decent shape. There is dead money, you have the chance or reoutdrawing if he hits, plus there's a backdoor low if he flushes up.

[TightEnd]

I'd move the shortstack in Hi-Lo everytime

[JungleCat03]

POT....enough in the pot to make anyone without a massive draw make an error/ plus the additioanl advantage u may get action off a lower set/ two pair which are the hands you really want to give you action. Your backdoor lo can also get you out of trouble.

[TightEnd]

POT....enough in the pot to make anyone without a massive draw make an error/ plus the additioanl advantage u may get action off a lower set/ two pair which are the hands you really want to give you action. Your backdoor lo can also get you out of trouble.

Yes! I love you, not in a Brighton sort of way though.

[Div]

This isn't 'every time you play a hand'.

This is a hand where six people have seen a raised flop, and then four of them have smooth called a 1/3 pot bet on the flop (a bad bet IMHO)

You have to credit some of them with decent hands.

I reckon if the hands were turned over you'd be looking at the nut flush draw, at least one straight draw, maybe a smaller set, an overpair (possibly with a flush draw), and a couple of optimistic backdoor low draws.

If you are really unlucky several of those draws could be in the same hand.

I'd definitely like to see another card fairly cheaply with position here.

[TightEnd]

I'd definitely like to see another card fairly cheaply with position here.

but so would they, hence they all call and no raises

STICK IT UP EM, Make life uncomfortable...make them pay to make mistakes

[ifm]

Mistakes?
i give in....................

[Div]

but so would they, hence they all call and no raises

STICK IT UP EM, Make life uncomfortable...make them pay to make mistakes

Actually part of the problem with a board like this IS that other players make mistakes. You want to pot it to offer the big drawing hand 2/1.

The problem is that the guys with smaller sets, overpairs, 2-pair smooth call, and price in the guys with big draws, which makes it very difficult to get rid of them here.

That's why I say take another card.


(PS Off to bed now)

[TightEnd]

Mistakes?
i give in....................

if they call your maximum sized raise with a non nut draw or incorrect odds it is a mistake. If they hit, it doesn't change that.

ps bedtime too

Interesting thread, making me think......(prepared to consider I may be wrong.....)

 

[JungleCat03]

you will nearly always be making money by aiming to get most of your chips in on the flop. The times you run into a massive hand such as TJ AKc and are a dog will be compensated for by the extra pot odd equity u have, the times several people call you with flush draws, the times several people call you wrap draws, the times people call you with middle set, bottom set lalalalallala etc.

Don't call to fold on a dangerous turn card. As has been pointed out this is half the deck.

Sometimes you will lose your stack playing this aggressively. That's fine if you get your chips in in good shape which you will by potting it here. It's a cash game. You aren't aiming to survive, you are in it to make money!

PS tighty, always like your posts. Keep it up ( not in a brighton way)

[Royal Flush]

This isn't 'every time you play a hand'.
I reckon if the hands were turned over you'd be looking at the nut flush draw, at least one straight draw, maybe a smaller set, an overpair (possibly with a flush draw), and a couple of optimistic backdoor low draws.

So we have a str8 draw, nut flush draw, a lower flush draw blocking the nut fd's outs, and a set with 1 out.

Explain to me why we are not shipping it in here?

[scottm]

All of these answers are why i DON'T play Omaha !!!

Scares the life out of me  >:?

[goonner]

Nice replies not to sure about folding pre flop though 

I have a nut low, nut flush and straight draws and a high pair not the worst hand I have started with.

With all 5 calling I have to believe that some of them are holding each other’s cards. I certainly don’t want to see the turn five handed as any card above a 7 is going to make me fold unless I fill up. If 1 of them has a monster draw like      good luck to them.

As I am sure you have all worked out I did push. I was not happy when the 1st player went all-in for $94 was I was worried some off the others would call for there draws with the pot growing.

The rest folded I lost when a  came on the turn and player 1 showed 


Here is question 2 if you just called the $10 on the flop would you call to see the river. If player 1 bets out $30 and you get 2 callers.