hi/lo ?

[goonner]

do I push or just call like a wimp

50p/£1   hi/lo
I am on the button with about $200  and have been playing about about 30 minutes.

there are 4 limpers when the player to my right makes it $6 to go I call with  . The blinds fold and all the limpers call.

Flop       
UTG bets $10  now it gets interesting everybody calls.

I am holding the nuts but there are plenty of cards I don't want to see on the turn

The players left in have between $90 and $130 so if I bet the pot I am commited to call what ever the turn brings.

So should I push now and try and stop the hand or just call and see the turn.

I seem to find myself in this spot on a regular basis playing hi/lo

All comments welcome as long as they don't contain why are you playing hi/lo

[ifm]

Difficult one, you will defo get a caller with a flush draw if you push, as you say you are then comitted.
Personally i prefer to call in this situation and push on a non club turn, though if an ace or king comes a rethink may be necessary

[NoflopsHomer]

 

But how do you play it on the turn if the card is something like  ?

[Royal Flush]

Raise the pot, you cant let someone draw for $10, there is enough in the pot for you to take it down now.

[Gryffles]

You are not a favourite in this pot. (as it is you only have 20 safe cards - an ace and a 5-7 do not break your current board lock unless they are clubs - but they do improve the possible drawing hands out there ).
If you can see the turn/river for cheap and you fill up then fine, but against strong betting you should be folding.

Also I think this is a folding hand preflop, your hand has very little potential apart from the spade draw, you have no straight potential and the diamond draw is a recipe for disaster you are essentially looking for a nonscary board with a queen on it or a spade draw, if the was something like a T/J/K/A it makes the hand playable.

[snoopy1239]

I don't think this is a difficult decision at all.

You need to raise the max possible, if only to push the straight draws off the pot. Who knows, you might even take down the pot there and then!

If you receive a caller, then you've still got a good chance of being ahead on the turn.

If a flush comes, then 'that's poker', but we don't know for sure that he has it. He could be betting with the 4th queen. Plus, you can still reoutdraw a flush with a full house on the river.

And that's not forgetting the backdoor low draw you have to nuts the other half of the pot.

Let's see some testicular fortitude. Push!

[snoopy1239]

You are not a favourite in this pot. (as it is you only have 20 safe cards - an ace and a 5-7 do not break your current board lock unless they are clubs - but they do improve the possible drawing hands out there ).
If you can see the turn/river for cheap and you fill up then fine, but against strong betting you should be folding.

Also I think this is a folding hand preflop, your hand has very little potential apart from the spade draw, you have no straight potential and the diamond draw is a recipe for disaster you are essentially looking for a nonscary board with a queen on it or a spade draw, if the was something like a T/J/K/A it makes the hand playable.

How can you fold this hand preflop??

nut low draw
double suited
big pair
straight possibilites on either end

What more do you want?

[TightEnd]

You've got to push...trips in hi-lo are very vulneralbe and you must protect it now.

a) make any club draw pay the maximum

b) even if the flush hits you have outs to the house

c) two low cards might give you a share of the low

really if you push you should only get called by the nut club draw with a low back up


Push big time!

[snoopy1239]

You've got to push...trips in hi-lo are very vulneralbe and you must protect it now.

a) make any club draw pay the maximum

b) even if the flush hits you have outs to the house

c) two low cards might give you a share of the low

really if you push you should only get called by the nut club draw with a low back up


Push big time!

 

[ifm]

Ok you push, you will get a caller EVERYTIME!!!!
The amount of money you waste with hands like this in hi/lo is rediculous.
Better to get a hand in hi/lo before you commit, trust me over time you will win more than lose.
Otherwise let me know where you play and alias

[Div]

I'd call and try to manage the pot size. There's not just a flush to worry about, but anyone with JT in their hand is a danger too.

Up against someone holding a hand like



you are not in great shape. That might sound like seeing monsters everywhere, but I think it was Cloutier/McEvoy who said something along the lines 'in Omaha, if it's possible, it's probable'.

Also, why push and sacrifice position? If the turn is something innocuous you can then jam. If it's a scare card and there's lots of action before it gets to you, you can get away cheaply.

If it's a scare card and the betting is fairly light, you will probably be priced in to try to fill up on the river.

[snoopy1239]

Ok you push, you will get a caller EVERYTIME!!!!
The amount of money you waste with hands like this in hi/lo is rediculous.
Better to get a hand in hi/lo before you commit, trust me over time you will win more than lose.
Otherwise let me know where you play and alias

You've got the nuts. Your opponent will have to pay a poor price to hit his draw.

Flat call here and you're playing passive poker.

[TightEnd]

like I said, trips are very vulnerable in 4 card games

for vulnerable read horrible!

I push, its the best hand now ("better to get a hand"? I have the best hand), let them invest as much as possible to beat you from behind

i may be wrong, but thats what I would do

I don't lose fortunes playing hilo this way in my local dealers choice game  . (Famous last words)


p.s the fact that you have multiple callers before it gets to you might indicate a lot of club draws that aid your chances of not getting outdrawn....

[ifm]

In holdem i agree snippy, hi/lo is a different animal.
With 2 cards to come people will call with all sorts of draws, if you jam here and a club comes you just lost money unnecessarily, better to wait for the turn to make a move.
Just think how many draws are there......................
Div's post is very good.

EDIT for Tighty

Trips ain't a hand in this game mate, you need TOP flush, TOP straight or TOP fully to push.

[Div]

You've got the nuts. Your opponent will have to pay a poor price to hit his draw.

Flat call here and you're playing passive poker.

He has the nuts, but could still be an underdog.