TPTK

[byronkincaid]

Rebuy tourney, sat for the $650 WSOP sat. Matey seems like a pretty good tough player to me. 30ish players left 9 win a seat I'm below average chips.


PokerStars Game #4340651020: Tournament #21201427, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/03/19 - 11:42:36 (ET)
Table '21201427 3' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: realox (12355 in chips)
Seat 2: DORIANXXL (5900 in chips)
Seat 3: Kru223 (4225 in chips)
Seat 4: nateman (14886 in chips)
Seat 5: PantyThief (5145 in chips)
Seat 6: Eastie3246 (4630 in chips)
Seat 7: ByronKincaid (6500 in chips)
Seat 8: Schecky (9650 in chips)
Seat 9: gnsd22 (6435 in chips)
realox: posts the ante 25
DORIANXXL: posts the ante 25
Kru223: posts the ante 25
nateman: posts the ante 25
PantyThief: posts the ante 25
Eastie3246: posts the ante 25
ByronKincaid: posts the ante 25
Schecky: posts the ante 25
gnsd22: posts the ante 25
DORIANXXL: posts small blind 100
Kru223: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ByronKincaid [As ]
nateman: folds
PantyThief: folds
Eastie3246: folds
ByronKincaid: raises 400 to 600
Schecky: folds
gnsd22: folds
realox: calls 600
DORIANXXL: folds
Kru223: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
ByronKincaid: bets 800
realox: raises 800 to 1600

What to do?

[Dewi_cool]

He's hoping u just put in a continuation bet,  you can  re raise or flat call with check raise on the turn

[NoflopsHomer]

I'd prefer to raise here to around 3000. Check/raising on the turn will cost you more chips if he has two pair or trips, I'd rather flat-call and check/call down to the river than check-raise the turn with only TPTK.

[Sunday8pm]

I'd prefer to raise here to around 3000. Check/raising on the turn will cost you more chips if he has two pair or trips, I'd rather flat-call and check/call down to the river than check-raise the turn with only TPTK.

when you say that do you mean you will call if he re raises all in or will you pass?

you CAN'T pass AK here. Once you have raised pre and bet the flop you have 1/4 of your stack in the middle with most likely the best hand, this is a premium oppurtunity to double up and its much more chance he has AQ, AJ, AT than a set or 2 pair.

how did it pan out?

[NoflopsHomer]

I'd prefer to raise here to around 3000. Check/raising on the turn will cost you more chips if he has two pair or trips, I'd rather flat-call and check/call down to the river than check-raise the turn with only TPTK.

when you say that do you mean you will call if he re raises all in or will you pass?

you CAN'T pass AK here. Once you have raised pre and bet the flop you have 1/4 of your stack in the middle with most likely the best hand, this is a premium oppurtunity to double up and its much more chance he has AQ, AJ, AT than a set or 2 pair.

how did it pan out?

He's giving you over 5-1 on the flop. You've represented the Ace that you, he would concede, most likely have, and yet he still wants you in the pot. I don't think you're ahead here.

[Dewi_cool]

course your ahead, he's a bully take it off him

[Sunday8pm]

I'd prefer to raise here to around 3000. Check/raising on the turn will cost you more chips if he has two pair or trips, I'd rather flat-call and check/call down to the river than check-raise the turn with only TPTK.

when you say that do you mean you will call if he re raises all in or will you pass?

you CAN'T pass AK here. Once you have raised pre and bet the flop you have 1/4 of your stack in the middle with most likely the best hand, this is a premium oppurtunity to double up and its much more chance he has AQ, AJ, AT than a set or 2 pair.

how did it pan out?

only a panicky rock would pass here in my opinion

He's giving you over 5-1 on the flop. You've represented the Ace that you, he would concede, most likely have, and yet he still wants you in the pot. I don't think you're ahead here.

[The Baron]

course your ahead, he's a bully take it off him

I disagree. A bully would raise more. He's giving you odds to call and I never like that. Especially at this level where the players will be decent.

I would however raise here to find out where you are. If he calls/reraises you are in trouble.

The problem is you cant really do this without committing yourself.

I guess the logic then moves to being a call and giving him the action on the turn.

(OR you could dump it in and pray for AQ!)

[Sunday8pm]

course your ahead, he's a bully take it off him

I disagree. A bully would raise more. He's giving you odds to call and I never like that. Especially at this level where the players will be decent.

I would however raise here to find out where you are. If he calls/reraises you are in trouble.

The problem is you cant really do this without committing yourself.

I guess the logic then moves to being a call and giving him the action on the turn.

(OR you could dump it in and pray for AQ!)

if you think the players are pretty good, and they are making their bet out to be a 'value raise' then surely you can still percieve this as a bluff? A good player will make their bluffs look like 'call me' bets. Alternatively he could be trying to get action with AJ or AT thinking he is ahead

[NoflopsHomer]

I'd prefer to raise here to around 3000. Check/raising on the turn will cost you more chips if he has two pair or trips, I'd rather flat-call and check/call down to the river than check-raise the turn with only TPTK.

when you say that do you mean you will call if he re raises all in or will you pass?

you CAN'T pass AK here. Once you have raised pre and bet the flop you have 1/4 of your stack in the middle with most likely the best hand, this is a premium oppurtunity to double up and its much more chance he has AQ, AJ, AT than a set or 2 pair.

how did it pan out?

only a panicky rock would pass here in my opinion

He's giving you over 5-1 on the flop. You've represented the Ace that you, he would concede, most likely have, and yet he still wants you in the pot. I don't think you're ahead here.

AJ AT AQ would raise more here post flop because min-raising doesn't tell you enough about your kicker.

[The Baron]

Yup true. It works both ways. (If I knew that, he knew that, I know that, he knows that.......)

You do make an excellent point for the Ace lower kicker too - in that trips should probably flat call here.

In honesty I'm not sure you have enough chips to find out where you are without going all-in here.

The min reraise stinks of strength to me though.

I'd flat call and reassess the turn.

[NoflopsHomer]

Yup true. It works both ways. (If I knew that, he knew that, I know that, he knows that.......)

You do make an excellent point for the Ace lower kicker too - in that trips should probably flat call here.

In honesty I'm not sure you have enough chips to find out where you are without going all-in here.

The min reraise stinks of strength to me though.

I'd flat call and reassess the turn.

I'm not sure what would constitute a good card for the turn.

[The Baron]

Yup true. It works both ways. (If I knew that, he knew that, I know that, he knows that.......)

You do make an excellent point for the Ace lower kicker too - in that trips should probably flat call here.

In honesty I'm not sure you have enough chips to find out where you are without going all-in here.

The min reraise stinks of strength to me though.

I'd flat call and reassess the turn.

I'm not sure what would constitute a good card for the turn.

That's assuming you are ahead.

[NoflopsHomer]

Yup true. It works both ways. (If I knew that, he knew that, I know that, he knows that.......)

You do make an excellent point for the Ace lower kicker too - in that trips should probably flat call here.

In honesty I'm not sure you have enough chips to find out where you are without going all-in here.

The min reraise stinks of strength to me though.

I'd flat call and reassess the turn.

I'm not sure what would constitute a good card for the turn.

That's assuming you are ahead.

Where are you Byron dammit? We want answers!

[M3boy]

NICE POST - Quality debateable one this!!

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