Showing Cards In Game

[dik9]

You can flip em over but you would have fofieted your hand if I saw it and it was on purpose.

[peeveen]

Wow. That seems like a weird rule.
OK, thanks!

[dan]

didnt something like this happen in monte carlo. a guy moned all in with the nut flush and then showed his hand before the other guy could call. somebody suggested he might of done it so not to be outdrawn by 2 pair or a set. i think it was on the bubble

[Tractor]

Ive seen the DEAD HAND rule applied at both Luton and Walsall so we adopted this rule at our club.
Basically it can be different at any club you play.

[bundle]

There needs to be a Universal rule. I saw a guy push all in on TV, everyone folded except the BB who stared him down for a min or two then flipped over QQ, the comentator said he was looking for a tell before he decided on his move, 30 seconds later he folded.

The other guy had KK but to his credit he never showed him.

[allym]

From experience the hand is not dead, but the cards were flipped by accident! This is seen as bad etiquette!

[stallyon]

i played on a table with Ram Vaswani and he'd go all in virtually every hand, without seeing his cards and then turn over his cards before anyone had chance to act. I know this is a completely different scenario but it was great to be a part of.

Different clubs would have different rulings - its always best to know what the club ruling is first before having your cards mucked due to a misunderstanding.

[Dale]

Someone did something like this at one of the sit'n'gos on Saturday night.
Player in question was facing an all-in, only him left to either call or fold. He shows his two cards.
I assumed it was a fold, several other people at the table thought the same thing.
We later asked Mel (londonpokergirl) what the situation was, and she said it was allowed under those circumstances.

Aye I heard about this!

The ruling is he can only check or call, however its sometimes thought as being ungentlemanly!

His name was Dale and he was a bit upset about the decision when i was talking to him he should be it was ruled wrong....would he have won??

It was fairly late on in the SNG, 5 handed.

He was all in on the turn for 5000 chips, 2800 in the pot.

My stack was about 7/8000, chip leader.

I had  in the bb.
Opponent limps.
I check called the  flop (something like that anyway, there was a Q and a 7 and it was rainbow with one diamond)
Turn 
Wanted to check-raise all in here but i checked and he pushed.
Tried to get a read by speaking to him, kinda thought he might have a pair and a flush draw or a straight/flush draw and was making a move for the pot as i looked weak/passive in this hand.
Flipped my cards over he was like "wow i never put you on KQ" as he moved his cards into the muck.
I said "my cards are live, what are you doing?"

Well everyone at the table disagreed that my hand was live and then my opponent mucked his cards so i didn't argue it further. Couldn't find mel a the time.

He told me he had .

To make things worse i suffered 2 bad beats after this got  cracked by  when it hit one of its 5 outs after the money went in on a Q high flop.
Then some donkey called Decider/GPS doubled though me when he couldnt lay down an OESD for all his chips.

I blame it all on wearing In The Belly's shades during the match  cursed with bad luck 

[dik9]

So many things wrong here I dont know where to start?

Firstly you said you were trying to get a read off him by talking, I take it that didn't work so you tried exposing your cards deliberately to get a different read? Unless there are only 2 people left in the tourny this is a big no no in my book (not to say different TDs and places have different rules, so I am just commenting on what i would do)

Secondly, if the guy was all in then his cards must be exposed unless the opposition passes, as to stop chip passing etc.
As the dealer did not stop him mucking or try and salvage the cards then it should be assumed that the dealer thought you had passed too. I cannot think of a situation like this that I would actually allow you to keep your cards unless heads up.

Thirdly I would probably issue a warning for extremely bad sportsmanship for pulling a stunt like that. Even if it was the Blonde Bash!

Lastly Fancy wearing ITBs shades everyone knows they are cursed, thats why he wasnt wearing them.

As I said earlier this is only my interpretation on the rules, others may differ drastically so please dont take offence at my understanding of the situation EDIT LOL just reread original

[tikay]

didnt something like this happen in monte carlo. a guy moned all in with the nut flush and then showed his hand before the other guy could call. somebody suggested he might of done it so not to be outdrawn by 2 pair or a set. i think it was on the bubble

You are thinking of the John Kabbaj incident. His oppo announced "all-in" & John gathered his stack together with the intention of calling, as he held the K flush. But before he could, Oppo turned over A-Q diamonds - the stone-cold nuts! - so John, who had not said "call" - simply said "pass" & that was that. But this was a Thomas Kremser Tourney, & Big TK quickly suspended the Oppo for 15 minutes for showing his hand.

In fact, the guy was not seeking any advantage - ALL 5 cards were dealt, so he was only disadvantaging himself, but he just got a bit excited, & seeing - as he thought - John about to call, (which John WOULD have if Oppo had not shown) he exposed his hand a tad too soon.

But worse than the 15 minute penalty was the loss of all those chips he woulda won off John!

So, as it turned out, in THIS case the Penalty was not appropriate to the crime, (discretion should ALWAYS be applied) but then again, I'd rather a few harsh penalties, than no penalties at all, as is generally the case in the UK.

[dik9]

Flog em all 

[tikay]

Shoot 'em.

[NoflopsHomer]

Knock on their doors and then run away, giggling to yourself.

[bundle]

Noflops That new avatar is going to drive me potty. lol

[bundle]

is it a dance from pulp fiction or has he lost something ?