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« on: March 24, 2006, 06:29:03 PM »

Seeing as blonde/blondites seem to be on a crusade (which i fully support) to increase play, get better playing conditions, more organisation, standard rules etc.

Why is it that in blonde pokers very own FREEZEOUT comp did this happen......


AND...... We have our FIRST casualty of the day!!!!!

CAMBO has the honour of being first out.. back to back AK and the worst hand won both times.... Ooooops.

cambo is outin 4th


teacakes QJ defeats his A10


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Those who live in glass houses.....
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2006, 06:40:11 PM »

A lot of players didn't turn up for flight two.

To keep the numbers even, it was decided that many players who were eliminated in flight one were allowed to play again in flight two.

The thought being as they didn't know they could do this until the end of the flight, no unfair advantage would be gained.

The alternative would have been a flight two with half the numbers of flight one.

Glad it wasn't my call.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2006, 06:53:18 PM »

Flushy, how can you compare standards of a £1500 ranking tournament to a Blonde Tournament???
Why bother  stirthepot
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2006, 08:35:53 PM »

I have read so many bad things about nottingham cardroom rules here. However none so bad as allowing players to rebuy in a freezeout.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2006, 08:47:03 PM »

I'm more concerned that they let girlies play in the heads-up comp.

Surely this is wrong, the rest of us need a chance.  Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2006, 09:01:12 PM »

I'm more concerned that they let girlies play in the heads-up comp.

Surely this is wrong, the rest of us need a chance.  Cheesy

Nice try, lol.

However i want to have a serious debate on this, evreyone i spoke to thought that it was a joke to have this rebuy option. The blondebash is all about good fun, but also its about being able to play a decent comp with good players for little money, and that is not what happened.

As for saying they didnt know and so didnt get an advantage, well thats just not true. I was dealing a table at the time and 3 players on my table upon hearing the news moved all in on the last 3 hands so as to either double or buy back in.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2006, 09:15:06 PM »

I'm more concerned that they let girlies play in the heads-up comp.

Surely this is wrong, the rest of us need a chance.  Cheesy

Nice try, lol.

However i want to have a serious debate on this, evreyone i spoke to thought that it was a joke to have this rebuy option. The blondebash is all about good fun, but also its about being able to play a decent comp with good players for little money, and that is not what happened.

As for saying they didnt know and so didnt get an advantage, well thats just not true. I was dealing a table at the time and 3 players on my table upon hearing the news moved all in on the last 3 hands so as to either double or buy back in.

first i heard it was being disccussed in the break and therefore flight 1 should of been over

i think the number of no shows for the 2nd flight was disapointing and could not of been foreseen and this was the opnly viable option
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2006, 09:31:28 PM »


As for saying they didnt know and so didnt get an advantage, well thats just not true. I was dealing a table at the time and 3 players on my table upon hearing the news moved all in on the last 3 hands so as to either double or buy back in.


Letting them know at this stage was probably a bad plan, kinda blows my point out of the water.

I'm sure lessons have been learned though.

That's the fundamental difference between this comp and one run at Notts Gala. Tikay and co. are willing to listen to feedback and learn from mistakes.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2006, 09:34:22 PM »

Well, I have to stick my hand up here as I made the final decision.

The first I knew about it was in the break between the two flights, so anyone in the first flight pushing on the last three hands was doing so before it had been decided ( perhaps it was at the "rumoured" stage).

Secondly we had over 60 runners in flight One and nearly 30 no shows for Flight two.

With the accent on fun and socialising I decided it would be ok. With hindsight, I rather regret this.  

The decision was made in the break so as far as I was concerned no one playing in flight one had an unfair advantage.

Another unfortunate thing was that several people indicated to me that had they known they would have chosen to play flight one rather than wait for flight two, so as to get two bites at the cherry. To these people I apologise. (p.s I am amongst these people myself...I dealt and tournament directed flight One rather than play)

If I had it all over again, I think I would say no.

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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2006, 09:35:27 PM »

being new to LIVE poker and being lucky enough to have a few chips left at the end of the flight I really didn't know any better and wasn't taking things too seriously.  I thought the BB was mostly a social occasion and left it at that.  HOWEVER if it had not been the BB I feel it would have caused a riot..  There were Two people at my table who were knocked out and left the premises who would have bought in again had they been told.  by the time they were phoned to tell about the rebuy they were miles away and on the way home.VERY unfair indeed..Also a LOT of players played very tight to ensure they got to the final flight and it ended up they got put out in the final flight by people who should not have been there..  would be interesting to know if any of the final table had been knocked out in flight one..  My table was informed about the rebuy just as the last handof the flight was being dealt.  although I dont have any experience of Live poker I would imagine that if it had been in any competition other than the BB it would have caused mayhem.. Was still a great night and in truth I am glad that I didn't know any better but if I had learned after I arrived home that I could have a chance at a rebuy but wasn't informed I would be a very unhappy bunny indeed.  
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2006, 09:36:45 PM »

i missed out on flight one so that i could fix my puncture of course if i had known about the 2 bites of cherry i would have prefered to goto the lapdancers in the afternoon and fixed the puncture after i had busted out
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2006, 09:37:28 PM »

AFAIK 2 players in the final table played both flights.

This is irrelevant though.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2006, 09:39:23 PM »

Cybertim

It would have been unthinkable for it to have happened in anything other than a social tournament with the accent on fun first.

Secondly, some of the reasons you quote are why it was a mistake

Thirdly, it wasn't finally decided until the break
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2006, 09:40:13 PM »

The decision was made in the break so as far as I was concerned no one playing in flight one had an unfair advantage.


The decision wasn't announced in the Break...  Tikay informed my table before the break and a few people said that the decision was nonsense but they would run with it..  admittedly it was JUST before the break though...   I suppose its easy with hindsight though and its all good experience for the next one..  
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2006, 09:41:18 PM »

It won't happen again.
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