players association / governing body

[AdamM]

Tikays favourite topic on poker425854. if there was a :edit: players association / governing body :edit: who would you want on it? I guess you couldn't have people like Thomas Kremser/John Duthie/Jon Shoreman/etc, ie anyone the players might like to negotiate with.

nominations?

[Nem]

nominations?

AdamM

[AdamM]

thanks

my first nomination is The Camel. says his piece anyway and it's usually on the mark

[TightEnd]

nominations?

AdamM

anyone with experience of being moved in the shortstack.


p.s(serious answer) Me!

[ericstoner]

  come on Tighty, take up the challange.

[Nem]

I would say Tikay cos everybody likes him.

[AdamM]

i agree but he'd never accept it

[Heid]

Poor chap doesn't have the time I don't think.

[Sark79]

Ironside seems like a bright chap. He always puts over a good argument.

[TightEnd]

Ironside seems like a bright chap. He always puts over a good argument.

You can fool some of the people.........


No seriously, he loves a good argument! 

[TightEnd]

Lucy Rokach

Neil Channing

James Browning

Tom Sambrook

just to give a few...tikay's too busy i expect



A full time job though, would be difficult to play full time and do the union (a bit like Shoreman finds it difficult to do both playing a lot and poker in europe)

[bundle]

Deleted……. Sorry I thought you had started a serious thread. I should have known better My mistake…

[thediceman]

Irish Dennis, because he has expressed a willingness to do it rather than just talk about it.

From the Vic Structures Thread:

Ok then. I will ask one of my programmers to put up a home page for people to register their interest. If we get the interest then we will do it. What is important is to have a mission statement. What are we trying to avhieve and so on. If anyone wnats to be involved then send me an email.  My address is deniso@kewcomputers.com   Please mark it players union as I get a lot of mail and would not like to miss your mail.

[tikay]

Well no, we do NOT all know what is needed......

With respect, I am NOT in favour, necessarily, of a Players Union - not at all, & I don't believe I have ever said I am, either on 425 or in here. It would serve no puprose, because they would have nobody to negotiate with!

My wish is for a Governing Body, with input from ALL sides of the table - players, Casinos, Promoters, sponsors, TV Companies maybe.

I'm sorry, but if you think a Players Union would work you are whistling in the dark - that's the LAST thing Poker needs. It's a structure to our game, a universal set of rules, some authority, the ability to impose guidelines on player behaviour & sanction penalties, to receive requests for Fessies & insist they are structured properly, set up a "Grading System" (as in Group Races in Horse Racing) , negotiate with TV companies & new Sponsors, & impose upon these people what is needed in the way of sensible structures, proper added money, payment by TV companies for players time & image rights, and a dozen other things, so on & so forth. And from the Sponsors/Casinos TV compsnies angle, the Players would have to give assurances too, this is not a one-sided problem.

Setting up a Players Union would be a complete & utter waste of time. I am afraid, & I don't mean to be rude or abrupt here, but if you think a Players Union is the answer, you simply don't understand the problem.

It's an ASSOCIATION we need. With all parties represented.

[AdamM]

perhaps it's my choice of name thats wrong. You've said a group of people to negotiate with the TV / tourney organisors like Golf/Football/tennis/etc I think because it'd be made up of players I called it a union. we'd presumably be looking at an elected body wouldn't we?