The Main Event at The Vic

[matt674]

As to Luton omitting the 75-150 & 150-300 Levels Matt, I am pretty sure that if we make the case to Carmel - & I intend to - she will put at least one of these in - she is very amenable to accepting player suggestions as to Prize & Tourney structure. And I strongly recommend others talk to Carmel if you have a view on the matter, because we all have different wish-lists, and I have no position to speak on behalf of others. Though if there were a body of opinion on the blonde Forum, I would convey that to Carmel at Luton. But the thing with Luton is this - you cannot moan after the Event, as they take, indeed encourage, player input before the Event.

But what if 10-15 people say that they want the 75/150 and 150/300 levels putting into the tournament but 10-15 people say that they dont want the additional levels putting in? Like you say everyone has a different wish list - but who does the casino side with? Either way there are still going to be people disgruntled that it isnt their way.

[RED-DOG]

I was at Luton last night and I had a look at the structures for the festival events, the 150/300 level was indeed missing, and I suggested that pehaps it should be included, especially for the main event

I was told that as far as the cardroom super knew, it was supposed to be included for the main event, and he promised to chase it up

What ever they dicide, I felt like my thoughts had been taken on board

[tikay]

And THATS the point - Luton WILL listen.

If they get 10 peeps saying they want this, & 10 saying thay want that, well too bad, some are gonna be unhappy, but at least we will kmow where we stand BEFORE the Event gets going.

I am recording Poker 425 tomorrow (which by the way, will NOT be including the footage from The Vic - that will be next week), and this issue will clearly be a discussion point. If you want to contribute a view, PLEASE e-mail them, so we have something to chew over. Otherwise you will just get me blathering on as to what I think.

[matt674]

And THATS the point - Luton WILL listen.

If they get 10 peeps saying they want this, & 10 saying thay want that, well too bad, some are gonna be unhappy, but at least we will kmow where we stand BEFORE the Event gets going.

I am recording Poker 425 tomorrow (which by the way, will NOT be including the footage from The Vic - that will be next week), and this issue will clearly be a discussion point. If you want to contribute a view, PLEASE e-mail them, so we have something to chew over. Otherwise you will just get me blathering on as to what I think.

either that or you will be parading your new seat cushions again 

[Colchester Kev]

all valid points,................ but................... WHAT ABOUT THE BAR LICENCE ?

[tikay]

Did not realise you were a drinker Kev.......

E-mail the show & we will discuss it!

Gotta tell you a little story.

Kev & myself, as well as a bunch of other blondes, assembled late one night last week in The Marriott at Waltham Abbey, after attending the Ladies Poker Open.

It was Champagne galore, Jack Daniels left right & centre, everyone was half cut. Except the teetotal killjoy in the party, yours truly. The Barman comes for the order, "a bottle of Moet, (The Yongsta was in the chair) Jack Daniels for Kev, bla bla bla, what do you want Tony?". "Horclicks or Ovaltine please", I say.

The Barman never bats an eyelid, just takes the order (& jolly nice it was too), but Kev's face was a picture.  "You have to show me up" he slurred.......

[snoopy1239]

Did not realise you were a drinker Kev.......

E-mail the show & we will discuss it!

Gotta tell you a little story.

Kev & myself, as well as a bunch of other blondes, assembled late one night last week in The Marriott at Waltham Abbey, after attending the Ladies Poker Open.

It was Champagne galore, Jack Daniels left right & centre, everyone was half cut. Except the teetotal killjoy in the party, yours truly. The Barman comes for the order, "a bottle of Moet, (The Yongsta was in the chair) Jack Daniels for Kev, bla bla bla, what do you want Tony?". "Horclicks or Ovaltine please", I say.

The Barman never bats an eyelid, just takes the order (& jolly nice it was too), but Kev's face was a picture.  "You have to show me up" he slurred.......

... so did he bring Horlicks or Ovaltine??

The suspense is unbearable.

[doubleup]

IMO the best structures are those that always allow an average stack to comfortably call a raise throughout the competition.  I think the best way to achieve this is by starting with less chips, a long clock and a gradual increase in the blinds. 

Starting with 200bbs means that most competent players are unlikely to be eliminated in the early stages - why shouldn't players be under pressure from the start?   

Why not start with 6000 chips and blinds increasing on a 60 minute clock 50/100 75/150 100/200 100/200 ante 150/300 ante etc.  If you are not playing, this kind of structure will gradually increase the pressure but should always allow for play between average stacks although with the constant danger of elimination. 

The problem with many of the structures in British comps is the sudden change from having plenty of BBs to having little or no fold equity i.e you need to find some sort of a hand - and if you dont get it, you very quickly after find yourself in allin with anything territory.  I think this is what happened at the Vic and why players feel aggrieved.   

[simonow]

Keith very good points on your first Post,I agree there should be always money added to the prize pool if televised and the structure was great i really enjoyed it( also where are you hiding after causing all these debates  little Keith  lol)
Chubbs

[vinni]

i think a lot of the blind structures ,will allways hurt the type of nuts players ,
it all depends weather they get hands early doors ,
were as the strong agressive typs like kieth or simon ,or julian can make there moves
any time and know whene they can get away with it .
the 750 comp at the vic was a good structure untill the later stages ,
made it a type of crap shoot , i would have preferd the 1500 structure anyday

[Karabiner]

i think a lot of the blind structures ,will allways hurt the type of nuts players ,
it all depends weather they get hands early doors ,
were as the strong agressive typs like kieth or simon ,or julian can make there moves
any time and know whene they can get away with it .
the 750 comp at the vic was a good structure untill the later stages ,
made it a type of crap shoot , i would have preferd the 1500 structure anyday

Err Vinni, the £750 was a 45 minute clock all the way through, just like the monthly £300 at Walsall.

I've never heard anything but praise for that tournament.

So when did it become a crapshoot ?

The £1500 at the Vic went from a 90 minute clock with three tables left to a 45 minute clock on the final table.

Exactly which bit of that do you prefer mate ?

[vinni]

the blinds at 3000 6000 / 300  running ante ,any one sat on the 70/80k mark had 2 or possibly 3  moves max ,which showed ,as how quickly it went down to the last 4 . 45 mins to be exact