sick to death of crypto ie moan

[tikay]

I know exactly where you are coming from Totalise. But the guy who moves sites - or changes the deck - to avoid (or fail to confiont) his bad luck, is gonna do it again in a few weeks, when his luck runs bad again.

Now, your agument is that he thinks his luck is bad/the site is rigged, & that affects his confidence, so he plays bad, & loses. And you are right, 100%. But........

If he thinks a little deeper, and takes the problem back to it's root - that really, nobody is conspiring against him, it's just "variance", "form", "luck", he will be able to cope better, & his head won't get messed up by thinking, erroneously, that there is a conspiracy against him. It's all about handling adversity, as simple as that.

Now, take it a step further. Poker is an irrelevance in life. It's a game, played with cash. Nothing on a poker table is REALLY bad. We choose to play the game, nobody forces us to. For recreation (small dosh) or seriously, but we do so knowing that there is a very large luck quoitient involved. Far worse - far FAR worse - happens to every one of us in real life, every single day. It's my view that if players could get that clear in their minds, they would be able to handle "beats" better.  And then they would not get all phased by runs of so-called bad luck. Bad luck on the poker table is of no consequence set against the real world. Grasp that, & you are halfway towards being like me - a good, err, loser....!

In my opinion, I hastily add. Good debate, this.

[totalise]

My view pretty much ends here..


"I know exactly where you are coming from Totalise. But the guy who moves sites - or changes the deck - to avoid (or fail to confiont) his bad luck, is gonna do it again in a few weeks, when his luck runs bad again."

I'm hoping that after site hopping, and seeing that this stuff happens no matter where he/she plays, then it will click, and he/she will see the light, that it doesn't matter what site they are playing. IF that isn't the case, then the cause is probably a lost one anyways

I know when I first started, I had a sick run, couldn't lose a pot. Then I started losing, and of course it was the sites fault, how could I lose after winning so much so soon? so the cash out happened, and I moved to another site. I didn't even start winning there, so I figured THAT one was rigged, then after the winnings had slowly dribbled away into the copious rolls of the professionals, it was then that I actually bothered to look at what was happening... and I was just playing like filth, and the good luck ran out. It wasn't a case of me getting bad luck to lose, I just wasn't getting the good luck needed NOT to lose.

A lot of people I spoke to went through the same process, despite my protestations to the contrary, so I've always felt its something you need to figure out inwardly.



"It's my view that if players could get that clear in their minds, they would be able to handle "beats" better.  And then they would not get all phased by runs of so-called bad luck. Bad luck on the poker table is of no consequence set against the real world. Grasp that, & you are halfway towards being like me - a good, err, loser....!"


People should be happy (in relative terms) when they are taking bad beats, it means they are getting their money in good. Its when you dont take bad beats, and you are losing, you need to start worrying. This is where my detest of bad beat stories comes in.

[tikay]

Good stuff totalise, especially your final para. You should Post more.

[totalise]

yes, i've been revving it up a bit lately.. will post more as time (and interest) permits.

[bobby1]

Some great views in here guys.

I have had the most brutal two days of my poker life and for the first time ever I found myself shouting at the screen after my two pair was rivered by a bigger two pair. I felt a bit silly. Outdraws happen and as Tikay says if you accept that outdraws happen and that you will also outdraw other players it really does help your 'mind game' to play the long game. I got up, restored my faith, had a cuppa and went back to make a bad night more manageable.

To be honest Totalise, I also agree with your negativity by association theory. I have played many sites and tend to stick to the ones that I have won money from and dont even look at the ones that I have lost on. The replies here made me think that I should really play on more sites and that the negative experiences I have had on other sites shouldn't really stop me playing there as in most cases the negative thoughts have been sown over a very small sample of losing sessions.

[ifm]

Somebody once said "show me a good loser and i'll show you a loser", i am a bad loser and happy to be so, it stops me getting lazy.
When i say a bad loser i don't mean tantrum/criticising wise, just angry and frustrated in myself (not necessarily with myself).

[tikay]

Somebody once said "show me a good loser and i'll show you a loser", i am a bad loser and happy to be so, it stops me getting lazy.
When i say a bad loser i don't mean tantrum/criticising wise, just angry and frustrated in myself (not necessarily with myself).

But do you blame the online cardroom?......

[ifm]

Of course!!
Rigged i tell ya, all of 'em!!
Especially when Kev's playing

[marcro]

If changing sites is likely to improve your attitude/expectations and take you off tilt then it should be done for this reason alone.  Luck does balance out but it could take an awful long time and we tend to remember the bad luck and our out draws do not register for long.

[RED-DOG]

I love to win, and I hate to lose, that's the truth, pure and simple

Once the game is over, I have obviously done either one or the other, but for me thats not the end of it

If I have lost, I feel it is my responsibility to conduct myself well, to absorb and learn from the loss, to congratulate my opponents, to master my own emotions

If I have won, I try not to be too insufferable, to keep it in perspective, and I try not to get too carried away thinking how wonderful I am

Poker, like life, is a series of triumphs and disasters, until you learn to accept this, you will never be happy, no matter how good you are

In life, the bad beats matter so much more, but there is still nothing you can do about them, you can't change lifes deck, or lifes table.

The people I admire most in this world are not lifes big winners, but those who have overcome great adversity.

They have accepted the hands that life has dealt them, played them with flair and courage, and, against the odds, they have won enough small pots to stay in the game

[tikay]

If changing sites is likely to improve your attitude/expectations and take you off tilt then it should be done for this reason alone.  Luck does balance out but it could take an awful long time and we tend to remember the bad luck and our out draws do not register for long.

But there you have it, in a nutshell.....

"wer tend to remember the bad luck, & our outdraws do not register for long".....

Overcome that problem & you would not tilt in the first place!

[tikay]

I love to win, and I hate to lose, that's the truth, pure and simple

Once the game is over, I have obviously done either one or the other, but for me thats not the end of it

If I have lost, I feel it is my responsibility to conduct myself well, to absorb and learn from the loss, to congratulate my opponents, to master my own emotions

If I have won, I try not to be too insufferable, to keep it in perspective, and I try not to get too carried away thinking how wonderful I am

Poker, like life, is a series of triumphs and disasters, until you learn to accept this, you will never be happy, no matter how good you are

In life, the bad beats matter so much more, but there is still nothing you can do about them, you can't change lifes deck, or lifes table.

The people I admire most in this world are not lifes big winners, but those who have overcome great adversity.

They have accepted the hands that life has dealt them, played them with flair and courage, and, against the odds, they have won enough small pots to stay in the game

HAS to be Post Of The Week.

[marcro]

I love to win, and I hate to lose, that's the truth, pure and simple

Once the game is over, I have obviously done either one or the other, but for me thats not the end of it

If I have lost, I feel it is my responsibility to conduct myself well, to absorb and learn from the loss, to congratulate my opponents, to master my own emotions

If I have won, I try not to be too insufferable, to keep it in perspective, and I try not to get too carried away thinking how wonderful I am

Poker, like life, is a series of triumphs and disasters, until you learn to accept this, you will never be happy, no matter how good you are

In life, the bad beats matter so much more, but there is still nothing you can do about them, you can't change lifes deck, or lifes table.

The people I admire most in this world are not lifes big winners, but those who have overcome great adversity.

They have accepted the hands that life has dealt them, played them with flair and courage, and, against the odds, they have won enough small pots to stay in the game

HAS to be Post Of The Week.

Agreed - once again RED-DOG puts everything into perspective!

[yt]

So Joe before you blame the pokersite try looking at your starting hand requirements. You were behind preflop both examples.
It can't all be good as Red tk and totalise have debated above. 

[Ironside]

can i suggest www.blondepokerleague.com for your change of site

my form online has been terrible for past 18months taking some horrible beats

but i signed up with blondes new skin and my form is changing i am only $9 down when i would of been $100 on any other site

i also found the turbos were the best place to ply my trade as the blinds go up every 60 seconds so less chance for my lack of form to take hold

mind you dispite my poor form i can still beat the elderly anyone remember the score from the blonde bash2 when i took on the old man