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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2006, 02:53:54 PM » |
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I certainly think he has had the better players then Man U over the last 6 or 7 years, and yet hasn't achieved as much as them.. so in my eyes that is a clear definiton of "underachieving"
EDIT: to include that I dont really know much about football, just something I always felt about the arsenal team... whilst they have achieved a lot, I think with that batch of players over the last decade, they should have achieved more, hence the (maybe a bit strong) underachievement. In no way was i trying to belittle their achievements... just an opinion
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2006, 04:47:49 PM » |
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lawrir mcmenamee at southampton was the best english top division manger of all time
no money no players but he MANAGED southampton to some great seasons
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2006, 04:48:40 PM » |
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lawrir mcmenamee at southampton was the best english top division manger of all time
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2006, 04:54:06 PM » |
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lawrir mcmenamee at southampton was the best english top division manger of all time
no money no players but he MANAGED southampton to some great seasons
 i also think what paul jewell has done with a championship side this season is better than wenger achieve with his team of internations going 38 league games unbeaten
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2006, 04:55:15 PM » |
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lawrir mcmenamee at southampton was the best english top division manger of all time
no money no players but he MANAGED southampton to some great seasons
 i also think what paul jewell has done with a championship side this season is better than wenger achieve with his team of internations going 38 league games unbeaten Part time Comedian?
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2006, 04:57:16 PM » |
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And Reyes was 17.5 million as i recall. He has certainly done some amazing business though since he was there. Huge profits on Anelka, Petite, Overmars etc.
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2006, 04:59:32 PM » |
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I totally agree about Wenger
Lawrie McMenemy and Paul Jewell are fine, but neither hold a candle to what Martin O'Neill achieved at leicester......he bought tremendous bargains, we won the CC cup twice and finished in the top 10 of the Premeirship five seasons on the trot
Never before, and never again!
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2006, 05:00:55 PM » |
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nemesis a blind donkey with no football knowledge or christain gross could of succeeded with the players available to wenger
wigan were odds on to get relegated this season instead they look like they could finish in top half now thats an achievement
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2006, 05:01:47 PM » |
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MON is a poor mans gordon strachan good but not quite good enough
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2006, 05:04:46 PM » |
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MON is a poor mans gordon strachan good but not quite good enough
complete and utter rubbish. Strachan cannot be mentioned in the same breath as O'Neill Compare Strachan at Coventry (bottom six all the time til they finally dropped) and Southampton (he took them down) to O'Neill at Leicester (who only inevitably went down two seasons after he left). End of discussion.
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2006, 05:07:46 PM » |
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strachan too southampton down???
the season we went down we started with sturock as manager for 2 games then some coach who couldnt win a game then redknapp who was under orders from milan to take the saints down so that they could play derbys against us in the championship
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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2006, 05:10:15 PM » |
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"We"? you're a Southampton fan?  Strachan's crap anyway. Martin O'Neill is fantastic.
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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2006, 05:11:13 PM » |
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yes i am a saint and i am wearing a saints top now i have been since the early 80s
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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2006, 05:13:40 PM » |
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If Wenger can win the Champions League, there is no question IMO that he's the best manager, certainly of the "Premiership" generation. The football that Arsenal have played at times has been so far advanced of any other team. This from a lifelong QPR fan who saw the greatest player to ever kick a football, the legendary Stan Bowles.
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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2006, 05:16:59 PM » |
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The last time I heard "QPR" and "Greatest ever player to kick a football" muttered in the same sentence the Hoop fan was on about Danny Shittu
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