I could have won more....

[mjrevie]

Ok, I really should have more this time. Is my turn call not good, and/or is my river bet too much?


***** Hand History for Game 3966129860 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, April 13, 11:20:02 ET 2006
Table Irish Luck (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SteveGenius ( $88.40 )
Seat 2: l337wingman ( $102.30 )
Seat 3: Lines13 ( $131.89 )
Seat 7: Raistlin_M ( $68.70 )
Seat 10: redrobbob ( $21.98 )
Seat 5: mrevie ( $77.15 )
Seat 4: PaRaNOyAK ( $96.55 )
Seat 8: callme2morro ( $46.30 )
Seat 9: jking0945 ( $47 )
Seat 6: Denta_12 ( $26.85 )
jking0945 posts small blind [$0.50].
redrobbob posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mrevie [  ]
SteveGenius folds.
l337wingman folds.
Lines13 folds.
PaRaNOyAK folds.
mrevie raises [$4].
Denta_12 folds.
Raistlin_M calls [$4].
callme2morro folds.
jking0945 folds.
redrobbob folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
mrevie checks.
Raistlin_M bets [$3].
mrevie calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
mrevie checks.
Raistlin_M bets [$4].
mrevie calls [$4].
** Dealing River ** [ ]
mrevie bets [$14].
Raistlin_M folds.
mrevie does not show cards.
mrevie wins $36.35

[totalise]

you should be looking to raise the turn here as a default line. Think of it this way.. .if you just call here when he has a draw, then you lose the pot when he hits, and dont get any more (generally) when he misses. Now, if you raise the turn, you lose the pot when he hits (obv) but you make more when he misses... so you are gaining much more profit out of people who are drawing

Now, he might have a made hand already, if thats the case then you are building a pot on the turn that will enable him to get commited to on the river, and you are protecting yourself from losing action if a scare card comes on the river.

By slowplaying it, you are seemingly keeping the pot small, waiting for a  "safe" card to come before you get busy, but by that time, you have lost a potential customer (ie the drawer) a pretty good % of the time.

Of course, if he has nothing, then you miss out on a bluff by him on the river, but being OOP, u would have to be checking to him, and if you check here too often, you are losing too much value from the hand.

[TightEnd]

i like the minimum raise on the turn here

he has to call behind if he has part of it, even a draw

if you are feeling fruity the check on the river on a blank is often a red rag to a bull and he can value bet for you. Amazing how often they interpret the check as weakness and in comes the steal....


cash game tactic, not tourney where you are trying the value bet every time on the river

[RonK]

i like the minimum raise on the turn here

he has to call behind if he has part of it, even a draw

if you are feeling fruity the check on the river on a blank is often a red rag to a bull and he can value bet for you. Amazing how often they interpret the check as weakness and in comes the steal....


cash game tactic, not tourney where you are trying the value bet every time on the river

yeah i just throw value bettin out the window when i play cash games,simpley a tournament move