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« Reply #165 on: April 18, 2006, 01:06:33 AM »

Well, I don't know Brendan at all, but opinion is definitely divided, or just altering hand by hand as all the sofa pundits like us try to form opinions Wink

He's certainly got a following here, there's been a lot of shouting at the TV.

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« Reply #166 on: April 18, 2006, 01:09:08 AM »

There's shouting at the TV here too, and I'm the only one here  >:?
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« Reply #167 on: April 18, 2006, 01:09:19 AM »

I have a very good investment in Brendan at 7/2 for £50 as a wee interest.

So I'm shouting at the TV, whilst playing online.  Cheesy

Now 6/4f Smiley
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« Reply #168 on: April 18, 2006, 01:10:51 AM »

I have to say, though, that having the full final played live, although there are differences from 'normal' (the speed of it, whatever the hole card cams' influence is) does give you a better idea of the actual betting patterns of the players, and knowing what happened immediately before a certain hand is great - it used to confuse the hell out of me when a smooth cut would reveal that a player who'd just been chip leader now had average chips - and you'd then see him play without the benefit of knowing whether he was bad beat, a bit of a muppet, or what.

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« Reply #169 on: April 18, 2006, 01:14:30 AM »

I cant believe Mellin went all in with KJ on a flop of A7A, ok so he was still dominating against Q9 but with woodley calling a 100k raise there was every chance he would have an ace
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« Reply #170 on: April 18, 2006, 01:14:53 AM »

Evening all - just home from a 425 gig for the Main Event Final at Sunny Brighton

Oh, so thats where you've been is it, well thanks for telling us!

He doesn't call, he doesn't write.......
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« Reply #171 on: April 18, 2006, 01:15:56 AM »

This is astonishing play........ astonishingly good or bad.......... its one of the 2..... lol
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« Reply #172 on: April 18, 2006, 01:18:10 AM »

This is astonishing play........ astonishingly good or bad.......... its one of the 2..... lol

That hand was in the McCrirrick class !
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« Reply #173 on: April 18, 2006, 01:18:19 AM »

I know what you mean Jen. Televised live poker is a lot like watching Test match cricket. In the same way that someone can appreciate an LBW which nips back at the batsman better when they saw the bowler deliver the previous four balls on exactly the same line, only to see the ball move away, they can understand the thinking behind player actions more fully when they have witnessed exactly what the player has. The shown hands, the small pots taken down without a fight, even the raises which only win the blinds, these all help set the rhythm of the game, and influence what the players do in future hands.
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« Reply #174 on: April 18, 2006, 01:18:54 AM »

Roy berates the bet that gets both the better hands off the pot.
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« Reply #175 on: April 18, 2006, 01:19:05 AM »

"Danger everywhere," says Jesse as play restarts.

Melinn raises to 100k on the button, gets some blinds.

"Still a long way to go," says Jesse.

I just wrote the story of the last hand (long to short - Ruane gets a few chips) but realised I'd mixed all the players' hands up.  I have to turn my head a whole ninety degrees to see the TV, you know.
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« Reply #176 on: April 18, 2006, 01:20:36 AM »

"Danger everywhere," says Jesse as play restarts.

Melinn raises to 100k on the button, gets some blinds.

"Still a long way to go," says Jesse.

I just wrote the story of the last hand (long to short - Ruane gets a few chips) but realised I'd mixed all the players' hands up.  I have to turn my head a whole ninety degrees to see the TV, you know.

Why don't you and snoopy create a system of mirrors to avoid straining your necks?
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« Reply #177 on: April 18, 2006, 01:20:59 AM »

I have to say, though, that having the full final played live, although there are differences from 'normal' (the speed of it, whatever the hole card cams' influence is) does give you a better idea of the actual betting patterns of the players, and knowing what happened immediately before a certain hand is great - it used to confuse the hell out of me when a smooth cut would reveal that a player who'd just been chip leader now had average chips - and you'd then see him play without the benefit of knowing whether he was bad beat, a bit of a muppet, or what.



I agree-I wish there would be more live tournaments like this-its great for fish like me to try and learn unlike thinking its cool to be like gus hanson and go in every 2nd hand with 10 7os. Also-theres nothing on the telly at this time of night anyway
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« Reply #178 on: April 18, 2006, 01:22:15 AM »

I cant believe Mellin went all in with KJ on a flop of A7A, ok so he was still dominating against Q9 but with woodley calling a 100k raise there was every chance he would have an ace

Not necessarily - there are only two more Aces in the deck, it's far more likely Woodley doesn't have an Ace. Vincent was playing the percentages - Ian would find it very difficult to call without an Ace.

Roy has said on more than one occasion that Vincent will fall on his sword with his big bets and bluffs, but it's also likely that an opponent could choose to call when Vincent does this with a monster as well.
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« Reply #179 on: April 18, 2006, 01:22:19 AM »

I know what you mean Jen. Televised live poker is a lot like watching Test match cricket. In the same way that someone can appreciate an LBW which nips back at the batsman better when they saw the bowler deliver the previous four balls on exactly the same line, only to see the ball move away, they can understand the thinking behind player actions more fully when they have witnessed exactly what the player has. The shown hands, the small pots taken down without a fight, even the raises which only win the blinds, these all help set the rhythm of the game, and influence what the players do in future hands.

That cricket analogy was, I am sure, a good and succinct parallel.  But it sounded like some sort of sport code - I am quite Anglicised but still don't understand the game at all.  I think live final tables is the Future, however.  Down side:  all the new players who start off playing like Gus Hansen in heavily-edited TV poker will, er, stop.
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