Irish Open - Here's The Deal......

[tikay]

The MMM is a dark and mysterious force that sails through the poker universe......

.....darkly & mysteriously accumulating huge stacks, & then darkly & mysteriously grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Dingdell]

The MMM is a dark and mysterious force that sails through the poker universe......

.....darkly & mysteriously accumulating huge stacks, & then darkly & mysteriously grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.

I'm about to leave work to go home in time for poker 425.....I have to give myself a bit of time to find it as I have to go through all the adult channels first to get there!

[vinni]

that paticular night i had 5% with simon nowab

if you remember we walked you to the car with the money,

you were gutted that no deal was done as you would have had more

i dont need to lie ,end of lol

[M3boy]

like i said, ha ha.

Yes u did walk me to the Car. The only thing i was gutted about was not getting heads up with Simon.

Simon was the ONLY person who asked me about a deal, and I said "no way". That was the only talk about a deal to me.

Enough of this, its getting booring now.

[Jonboy]

As usual this has been a hot topic ... and always hotly debated whether on this forum or another one.

But I have a simple solution (Bracing myself for abuse!?) ...

1. If sky run and profit(?) off a televised event they should contribute a relatively small sum to the prize pool (as has been the case with many other sponsored events).

2. This sum should be allocated to first ... or maybe split between top 2/3

So for example if they had stumped up 50-100k euros this would be added to first place ... but would not be available for any deal. The players could have then done a deal for around 200k each, but be forced to play to the 'death' for the sponsors money.

Despite doing a deal for the 'players' money no one is going to spurn the chance of winning an extra 50k+ by making stupid calls with poor cards ... it should play to a fair and exciting climax.

SKY would be happy, players would be happy, the viewers would be happy ... and even M3Boy might crack a smile 

Just a thought

Excellent forum, great community

Regards

Jon.

[ifm]

Just pushes a deal "underground" mate, details of a deal should be known for ranking point purposes.

[Jonboy]

I think if it is set into stone and produced as a seperate cheque/cash sum this shouldn't be the case. If SKY added 50k and the payouts were as follows;

350k + 50k

180k

100k

Then doing a deal for 210k each (players pool money) and playing on for the 50k (sponsorship and title!) would result in all players playing their A-game to the bitter conclusion, at the same time being content with the money they have earned for their efforts in getting thus far.

I have often taken a deal and stumbled off home wondering but what if ... frequently after the money has been split the game breaks, or every one agrees to go all-in the next hand to claim the winners bonus of casino points, or some other gratuity ... after playing for a number of hours I would often prefer to play out the final few hands ... just so I know.

But hey ... that's just as bad as rabbit hunting if no one takes it seriously

Jon

[Chili]

Great to see all the blondites again, apart from chili who took €400 off me in the first hand I sat down at her cash table

Just to stray a little of topic.  Glad you introduced yourself to me Luckyblind after everyone deserted our table.  I think you produced the funniest quote of the weekend for me regarding that hand i won off you.

"I didnt believe you because i have read your tournament reports. I'm not usually such a fish!"

You did see me give it all back though didnt you? And then spectacularly knocking the little drinks table over that had a pint of coke on it.  Most embarrasing exit from a cash table from me 

[tikay]

What I like about JonBoy's Post is the concept of Sky (or the TV company) putting up some money.

The Premier League SELL their product, players benefit.

The LTA dito

The RFU ditto

F1 ditto

The ECC & MCC ditto

Now it's time for poker to get itself organised & do the same.

Live Poker is a stunning idea - but they have to pay.

And I dread to think how Matchroom, (apart from charging the players for the "benefit" a'la Poker Den) will dumb it down. Please please PLEASE Nice Mr Hearn - don't ruin this oportunity to really get poker covered properly! We don't need dumb clebs, cartoon characters (I'm not refering to Mad Marty here....) & such-like - just proper, not messed-about with poker.

Keep it simple!

[luckyblind]

Great to see all the blondites again, apart from chili who took €400 off me in the first hand I sat down at her cash table

Just to stray a little of topic.  Glad you introduced yourself to me Luckyblind after everyone deserted our table.  I think you produced the funniest quote of the weekend for me regarding that hand i won off you.

"I didnt believe you because i have read your tournament reports. I'm not usually such a fish!"

You did see me give it all back though didnt you? And then spectacularly knocking the little drinks table over that had a pint of coke on it.  Most embarrasing exit from a cash table from me 

I forget the hand but if I remember rightly it would have given me another reason to not drop my hand earlier It was a shame you had to rush off to get the plane as that table became very good and profitable, loose Dutch & German players with money to burn....

[tikay]

Great to see all the blondites again, apart from chili who took €400 off me in the first hand I sat down at her cash table

Just to stray a little of topic.  Glad you introduced yourself to me Luckyblind after everyone deserted our table.  I think you produced the funniest quote of the weekend for me regarding that hand i won off you.

"I didnt believe you because i have read your tournament reports. I'm not usually such a fish!"

You did see me give it all back though didnt you? And then spectacularly knocking the little drinks table over that had a pint of coke on it.  Most embarrasing exit from a cash table from me 

I forget the hand but if I remember rightly it would have given me another reason to not drop my hand earlier It was a shame you had to rush off to get the plane as that table became very good and profitable, loose Dutch & German players with money to burn....

Nah Mike, she's a Fish.

[Chili]

I am indeed - especially after 10 hours sleep in 3 nights.  No excuses though. I think 7 10 against A K is  a great hand.

[tikay]

Ops, thought she would be tucked up in bed by now......

[Dingdell]

Interestingly at the WPT there is a no deal policy. Its in the terms and conditions and if you agree a deal and they find out about it then you may not be allowed to play in other wpt events. Because the events are televised they want the play to be as good as possible.

I also notice that Stars are now offering bonuses for their players that get to final tables etc and again their terms and conditions stipulate no deals - but in their case they are putting extra money in to pay for the no deal condition - which I thik is ok.

[Royal Flush]

Interestingly at the WPT there is a no deal policy. Its in the terms and conditions and if you agree a deal and they find out about it then you may not be allowed to play in other wpt events. Because the events are televised they want the play to be as good as possible.

Thats fine as you read the contract before you play and sign it.

People have had issues with the WPT and they did change things.