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« on: July 22, 2005, 03:51:45 PM »

------HAND 2------
Game #701968714: Texas Hold'em No Limit (75/150) - 2005/07/22 - 15:43:35 (UK)
Table "Tourney 839409 - 7" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 1: Neil16069 (5080 in chips)
Seat 2: Sonic77 (3355 in chips)
Seat 3: Kris_42 (9245 in chips)
Seat 4: Achilles1 (1050 in chips)
Seat 5: Foaming_h (2010 in chips)
Seat 6: Beam_86 (775 in chips)
Seat 7: Jame24032 (2110 in chips)
Seat 9: Shnarf (3600 in chips)
Seat 10: avarell (2150 in chips)
Shnarf: posts small blind 75
avarell: posts big blind 150
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Foaming_h [ ]
Neil16069: folds
Sonic77: folds
Kris_42: calls 150
Achilles1: calls 150
Foaming_h: calls 150
Beam_86: folds
Jame24032: folds
Shnarf: calls 75
avarell: checks
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
Shnarf: checks
avarell: bets 2000 and is all-in
Kris_42: calls 2000
Achilles1: is all-in 900

Now it's on me, what should I do?
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2005, 04:05:48 PM »

fold
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2005, 04:07:57 PM »

He's right you know. Fold.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2005, 04:08:33 PM »

Throw those cards away as if they are on fire and burning your fingers..... despite the dream flop you are almost certainly  behind to an over pair and definately facing overcards  IMHO.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2005, 04:12:16 PM »

with no action preflop the BB could be sat there with 2 pair or a straight or a pair and a straight draw there is also a possible flush draw out there

2 all in players and a caller before you even if your ahead on the flop your only likely to remain ahead about 25% pf the time and you certainly dont want to be risking everything without a good chance of winning
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2005, 04:41:45 PM »

personally preflop i would have reraised with   I know its not great but you have only 2k in chips and you're 3rd lowest so u need to be making moves

If you had reraised, then you could shove all in onthe flop.   You are now faced with did they hit 2 pair, str8 etc, although 9's is good for the flop personally I'd give it a miss,  one who goes all in and a caller to it, you're way behind.   If you'd raised b4 the flop then u know where u stand. 

What was the outcome?
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2005, 05:44:05 PM »

Here's what actually happened.

Foaming_h: folds
Shnarf: folds
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
----- RIVER ----- [ ][Two Clubs]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
avarell: shows [ As] (A Pair of Sevens, Ace high)
Kris_42: shows [ ] (A Pair of Sixes, King high)
Achilles1: shows [ ] (A Pair of Sevens, Ace high)
avarell collected 2200 from Side pot #1
avarell collected 1725 from Main pot
Achilles1 collected 1725 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 5650 Main pot 3450 Side pot #1 2200 | Rake 0
Board [ Two Clubs]
Seat 1: Neil16069 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Sonic77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Kris_42 lost
Seat 4: Achilles1 showed [ ] and won (1725) with A Pair of Sevens, Ace high
Seat 5: Foaming_h folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Beam_86 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Jame24032 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Shnarf (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 10: avarell (big blind) showed [ As] and won (3925) with A Pair of Sevens, Ace high

So I had the best hand, but the betting indicated two pair, trips or a made straight, so folding was good. In any event, I was lucky enough to double through a couple of hands later when I flopped a royal flush(!), slowplayed for a big pay-off and eventually won the tournament, so with hindsight I was happy.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2005, 02:37:03 AM »

i would've called, end of the day you need chips and even if you are behind you have outs.
the point is you won't win if you don't gamble, simple but true
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2005, 10:49:37 AM »

I think I would have made it 500 to go in the hope of pushing the blind out and playing either one or both the big and small stacks.  I would be looking to gamble here as I'm short stacked.  But that's me, either out early or go deep.
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2005, 02:19:27 PM »

Looks like you are playing a few fish that bet that heavy with poor starting hands.  I hope you went on to take all their stacks. Throwing a hand that "might" have won still gets you information on the lower level play of the two fish with A-7's.
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2005, 02:36:40 PM »


Nice post syrflop!
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