Flush and inside straight draw

[byronkincaid]

Chip leader in a $50 PL tourney down to 20ish 9 get paid. I'm in the BB

Seat 1: lasbas (3985 in chips)
Seat 2: montjeu (4490 in chips)
Seat 4: RobieG (2355 in chips)
Seat 5: UK Nick (2565 in chips)
Seat 6: Upiter7 (5220 in chips)
Seat 7: ByronKincaid (7655 in chips)
Seat 8: MrCasino (3927 in chips)
Seat 9: clark46 (2975 in chips)
Upiter7: posts small blind 75
ByronKincaid: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ByronKincaid [ ]
MrCasino: folds
clark46: folds
lasbas: folds
montjeu: folds
RobieG: folds
UK Nick: folds
Upiter7: raises 300 to 450
ByronKincaid: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Upiter7: bets 900
ByronKincaid: ?

[ifm]

I like to reraise big draws like this usually though in this case i would just call.
My reasoning is that he is highly likely to have an Ace and so would quite possibly move allin on ya leaving you to hit to win, if you call and hit then i think you will get enough of his chips to make it worthwhile.

[Royal Flush]

I ship it in.

[rivered]

12 outs gives you a slightly under 50% chance of winning.  Therefore, why not just flat call until you hit... he can't get all his chips in before the river comes as it's a pot limit game so you get to see if you hit for a bit cheaper than by just shipping them in.  No info on the player, but looks unlikely that he'll lay it down to a max reraise from this position.  Just call the bets and hope you hit. 

[ACE2M]

I ship it in.

Would you lump it in when practically certain of getting called? And reasons for doing so please
This has been troubling me lately, i obvious lump it in if there is a decent chance the oppo will fold giving me two good chances to win the pot.

[SupaMonkey]

Maybe if ByronKincaid moves in it can only look like top two pair, a set or a made small flush. I am thinking that by moving in it would look like Byron was trying to protect a made hand. I think this would give him FE. I'm not sure about this, it is just a guess.

[byronkincaid]

I didn't think I was practically certain of getting called, I just saw a SB raise and a C-bet which to my mind means he could have anything. If I just call and miss then I have to give it up on the turn if he doesn't give me odds to call right? I didn't want to have to give up such a lovely draw so I bet the pot. We got it all in and I didn't hit. I still dunno what's the best thing to do here... If I call and miss then I've still got loads of chips but wouldn't it be nice to have even more.

My last few MTTs I have built up good stacks then blown them. I guess I need to work out when to accumilate and when to chill out for a bit.

[rivered]

I think a bit more patience will pay off... you've got KT.. not a great hand... if you hit then excellent - you can still bet on the river and maybe end up getting all his chips anyway.  If not then you've limited your loss.... Limiting losses is more important i.m.o. than taking people out when you're in a good stacked up position in a tourney... it's at these times that you can get too aggressive and make lots of all ins without thinking things through (not saying you didn't think things thru, but hopefully you get what i'm getting at!!).

[Lee]

With 12 outs i think sticking it in is the best play. Its a 50/50 (statistically) however with fold equity this has to move the odds in your favour and make it a winning move. On a cash table there would be no question of this move in my opinion.

I don't like the call personally, if you miss, you are left in no mans land and feel almost inclined to make a bad call on the turn. Two of the best things in poker are moving the decision into your opponents court and picking up pots without showing down. Moving in here, gives a great chance of both.

As CL too, it's nice to be active and illustrating that if people want to play pots with you, their tournament is going to be on the line. There are many people who will not take on chip leaders just purely because they appear to be hitting everything and being very lucky.

[JungleCat03]

I like Lee's points about the metagame aspects of putting in a big raise here. The image you create helps protect your blinds from attack and gives you additional fold equity in future pots. I don't like to push here though for a couple of reasons.

1) How great is your fold equity? It's a massive reraise for sure. Sitting on 50 BBs pushing puts him to a tough decision. BUT this is a blind on blind battle. I'd like to have some history on the other player before i estimate my fold equity here. Is he capable of laying down top pair or is he capable of bluffing with very little here. If either is true then your FE goes up and improves the value of the move.

For me to do this move I want to have reasonable fold equity and if i don't then i don't want to be coin flipping for 50 BBs with the only other big stack at the table.

2) You are pretty deep. 50 BBs is a very playable stack. Flat calling his bet will worry him whether he has top pair or not. If he follows through with a big bet on the turn that you can't call, it's ok, you still have plenty of chips back and this also suggests he might well have called your allin on the flop. If he's only got a weak ace or nothing, he might check the turn, or bet small enough to let you in with your draw. If the Q comes u stack him.

Edit: sorry just realised it's pot limit. You can't push anyway duh. I think flat calling is good here, you don't need to aim to gamble on the flop. If you reraise pot which is 2700 you are sticking in half your stack and are in a lot of trouble if he calls and you miss. Flat call and play the turn. When you hit you can pick up some value off worse flushes, or if you hit the Q you have a nicely disguised straight.