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Re: This hand is annoying me , could I have played it differently ??
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March 20, 2007, 02:03:58 PM »
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March 20, 2007, 02:07:44 PM »
Quote from: stewart on March 18, 2007, 01:32:30 AM
i have to ask this what are u doing there pre-flop with a small pair after a min-raise and a flat call and 1st to act?, with a relitivley shortstack - thats where ur problem is, once u hit the flop ur bet looks week like your hopeing they havent hit it and trying to take it down and his raise is ok he figures you for a J that doesnt want to risk your tourneyment life on it, they only way out of this hand is to check the flop and let the fd bet the other guy call and then move-in then if he wants to call thats his choice, the way it panned out hes never passing
but it is a small comp he most likely is just trying to go for 1st spot and not botherd about small placeings in that case if u go all-in he prob calls on the flop, but pre-flop is the problem like i said before u got to look at things before calling a min raise for value so u prob think, the push pre-flop isnt really an option here either by the sounds of it 1 of the 2 guys will call,
what?
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Re: This hand is annoying me , could I have played it differently ??
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March 20, 2007, 06:36:57 PM »
I would have played the hand in exactly the same way that you did. It's not yet shove time and definitely worth a call. With all the money in the middle you are still favourite to win. Don't you want folk to chase their draws like that?
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Re: This hand is annoying me , could I have played it differently ??
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March 20, 2007, 08:11:38 PM »
to put it in a better way, in what comp do you ever want to get all your chips in with a pair of 6's? when u figure u are going to get called, unless you are extremely low stacked, sure once you flop a set there is no way out your allways doing your stack just one of them things carnt even call it a bad beat because it isnt he has been the aggressive player thorowout the hand with a legitment hand
But the question is what are you doing there with that hand in that postion at that stage of the comp
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March 20, 2007, 08:47:11 PM »
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But the question is what are you doing there with that hand in that postion at that stage of the comp
tryin to get some chips so you dont dribble your stack away waiting for the better spot that never seems to materialise? Of the preflop condundrom, there are two options, and neither of them is to fold.
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Re: This hand is annoying me , could I have played it differently ??
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March 21, 2007, 02:39:09 PM »
Personally I think its a preflop raise. A minium rasie to me is a week play, only week players or strong players playing week would min raise, as your playing in a $3 rebuy its likley to be the former option. The call from the button can mean a wide variety if things (depending on the player) but without furthur knowledge I'd say he could be playing anything upto 50% of hands. So a weak bet and a weak call (by this I mean he has a wide variety), this is a perfect place to pull a squeeze play (as described by Harrington, one player raises the next call, your last to act ie if you call the betting ends).
As your the BB its only 2,000 to call and as you say your getting good odds (although not not a +EV as what will you do if you don't fill-up? you'll probly fold), a 6 comes down but with 2 suited cards. I think at this point you have two options, you either go all-in with your last 14,000 this gives the wrong odds to call (although as both have, particuly the pre-flop aggrssor more chips than you so they might still call, the second is more likely to call to a draw if the first one calls first) the second option is to check and look to get a "free card" so you can bet on the turn if a non club comes out. The problem with checking is what to do if someone bets now, do you call or not? You are almost definatly in front here so I'd call and hope he (or they) don't hit.
Of the three option I like the all-in on the flop the most, although if you call I think you should have moved all-in straight away on the flop.
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Re: This hand is annoying me , could I have played it differently ??
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March 21, 2007, 05:13:43 PM »
Quote from: dime on March 21, 2007, 02:39:09 PM
Personally I think its a preflop raise. A minium rasie to me is a week play, only week players or strong players playing week would min raise, as your playing in a $3 rebuy its likley to be the former option. The call from the button can mean a wide variety if things (depending on the player) but without furthur knowledge I'd say he could be playing anything upto 50% of hands. So a weak bet and a weak call (by this I mean he has a wide variety), this is a perfect place to pull a squeeze play (as described by Harrington, one player raises the next call, your last to act ie if you call the betting ends).
As your the BB its only 2,000 to call and as you say your getting good odds (although not not a +EV as what will you do if you don't fill-up? you'll probly fold), a 6 comes down but with 2 suited cards. I think at this point you have two options, you either go all-in with your last 14,000 this gives the wrong odds to call (although as both have, particuly the pre-flop aggrssor more chips than you so they might still call, the second is more likely to call to a draw if the first one calls first) the second option is to check and look to get a "free card" so you can bet on the turn if a non club comes out. The problem with checking is what to do if someone bets now, do you call or not? You are almost definatly in front here so I'd call and hope he (or they) don't hit.
Of the three option I like the all-in on the flop the most, although if you call I think you should have moved all-in straight away on the flop.
i wish i could of said that like that but i aint a wordsmith but i wholeheartly agree with the sentaments
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Re: This hand is annoying me , could I have played it differently ??
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March 31, 2007, 09:53:33 AM »
All in when the flop came down for me... you were the first to act.
Your raise was small enough to call/re-rasie and once that was done the money in the pot was worth calling your all in.
In the end you were outdrawn, you may have been able to scare the others off with an all-in you may not.
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Re: This hand is annoying me , could I have played it differently ??
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March 31, 2007, 12:11:39 PM »
Push pre depending on ur evaluation of the other two players, you want a realistic chance either both, or at least one of them will fold a decent hand. IF not the definitely at least call. I'd probably just jam the flop and hope someones got top pair, alot of people esp at $3 think oh my god he's going all in there's no way he has a strong hand. Then at least you make it a marginal/bad call from Mr. FLush draw, whereas the way you played it there his call was entirely correct.
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Re: This hand is annoying me , could I have played it differently ??
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March 31, 2007, 02:17:20 PM »
lol i am loving the replies that say push all in once you flopped a miracle. It's brought a smile to my hungover face.
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Quote from: Royal Flush on March 17, 2007, 12:52:52 AM
Quote from: sovietsong on March 17, 2007, 12:50:36 AM
you push preflop then royal? i would have passed...
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