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i was playing scrabble last night and couldnt belive my luck when i had enough letters to spell "Tottenham Hotspur Football Club". I wasnt to happy when i found out it was only worth two points thou!

Can we have a 'Lets mock Spurs' board please mods?

LOL ... if it wasnt for the shambles that is the CarToon army, i would be even more depressed.

Tottenham have received glowing reports about the quality of their pitch this season.

When asked what made the pitch so good, the Spurs groundsman explained that the club put 70 million pounds worth of shit on it every week.

Police yesterday found a Spurs fan dead; suspected suicide. At the time of death he was found to be wearing a miniskirt, fishnets, high-heels, his erect penis inside a blow up doll and a dildo in his arse.
To save his family from any embarassment, the police removed his Tottenham shirt.

Sandy

anybody think they can win today?? is 5/4 value??

Ahh    that would explain the absence of Nemesis then


R.I.P

fkin marvellous ..........

lololol

that is all

Deserve to go?

never a sending off imo

All the red cards in todays matches were justified imo

GET THE FK IN !!!

were they Nemesis's last words ?

sorted, we play with 10 men every week imo.

Fk Kev's life, again.

Yes thats it, book the Spurs man when the keeper gets a knee in the head from his own player

ref a fkin joke, never a sending off, Spurs goal was offside and I am right royally fked off !

Richard Branson was offered the opportunity to sponsor Spurs for the forthcoming season but declined saying, 'How can I put VIRGIN on the shirt of a team that's gonna get f*cked every week?'

To be fair the cut to his eye looked to be caused by the spurs player!!

game will finish at about midnight with all the injury time LOL

lol 11 mins of stoppage time. 

11 mins ftw, a record?

i think so

barca scored a winner a couple of weeks ago in the 14th minute of stoppage time...

woo another pen.

LOL ..


JUST LOL

lolol missed

Lol that has happened twice this weekend, 3 bits of woodwork in 2 or 3 secs.

Another Red

Ref has had a mare

PMSL, pure comedy gold.

All we need now is a spurs equaliser and last minute stoke winner.

11 mins injury time, match held up for 1 min 30 for dawson sending off.... ref blows for ft 101mins exactly. hows that?

Andy Dawson will be on the phone to his bro tonight, ''we're 15 points ahead of you, na na na na na''!!

Juande Ramos in all his fury was caught driving home on the motorway doing 126mph when a police officer pulled him over. Being a Stoke fan and in good spirits he told Ramos to be on his way and he would let him off without a ticket. Ramos declined the policeman's offer stating he could do with the three point

Spurs have got British Rail in to do the stadium announcements ... they have plenty of experience announcing "Points Failures"

Tony Pulis - "I hope they stick with their manager, I hate to see managers sacked".

In other words, He's fkin awful and with him in charge that's one team guaranteed to be below us at the end of the season.

Opposition managers calling for you not to be sacked are surely a hint it's time to give it up lol

FYP

4 key decisions and the red only got one wrong for me - and that was in favour of spurs.
I like pulis hoping tottenhams form improves. He must be confident.

Call me mad but I really think Spurs will finish in the top four next season, I'm not sure if they'll manage to get one of the automatic promotion places though.

 rotflmfao

Hutton is a key player back for you, Spurs need less fannys like Modric right now. It's still strange to me that Spurs only play 1 upfront against the divisions worst team.

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I'm an Arsenal fan

I've hated the yids ( inflammatory terminology intended, but with historical usage deliberately used for historical purposes only ) since I was a kid.

But this is beyond the pale.  It's beyond pathetic.

And it's not what I want to see.  We need a 'Spurs side with enough about them to take points off the mid tablers.  So when we beat them, there is a reasonable amount of pride.

But now we're on a hiding to nothing.  Everyone can beat 'Spurs, so we should too.  and if we don't, it makes us look bad.

This time last year 'Spurs could play a bit of football, but they had no stamina, and no shape.

Ramos made them fitter in a matter of weeks, and gave them the shape to use their skills, but with a defensive bite hitherto not seen.  And helped them win a cup.

Ok, so they've lost the front line, but a) Bent isn't that bad, and has managed a few , and b) Berbatov was never a great defender anyway.  So why the TOTAL collapse.

Ramos is good enough.  Individually the players are good enough.  When Jol first joined he showed similar promise, but it all went tits up for him as well.

Please don't sack Ramos.  Maybe the problem is higher up.

Spurs to take points from Arsenal and Liverpool in their two next league games.

People keep saying "Spurs have the players, they're just not performing".
I don't think they have the players.
Back 4 is fine.
They have a worse keeper than last season and spent a load of money getting him.
Modric is shocking. Might be good in a good team but he's not one for a battle. Should have bought Kranjcar instead.
Zokora is poor, Lennon is quick but can't do alot with the ball. Bentley will be good but people is getting played all over the place.
Jenas looks like he knows how bad everyone is and wants to do it all on his own.
Bent and Pavlyuchenko (googled spelling) can't play together? 1. they should be able to 2. why buy him if he's too similar, Kevin Doyle would have been a better bet.
I think they're going down but at best they'll survive and lose all the money made from Berbatov and Keane in January.

Ramos: "I speak to the chairman when he permits us to speak - he's a very busy person and i dont know when it will be possible to speak".

 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

I suppose it's better than a vote of confidence ::)

Of course the chairman's busy - he's looking for Terry Venables' phone number.

Exactly.  The back four are fine, yet they're still conceding goals like they're doing it for fun.

Last year they defended as a team, this year they're playing as individuals ( badly ).

Last year they were fit enough to take teams out in the last 5-10 minutes.

Training wise something must be different.  Ramos is still around, so what has changed ?

Government to bail out Tottenham Hotspur with emergency injection of 50 points


After continuing falls in the league position of Tottenham Hotspur, the government has announced that it is stepping in to prop up the ailing North London club with an emergency injection of fifty league points.

The club’s stock has fallen sharply since August with a negative goal difference increasing week on week. A number of competitors such as Hull City took points away from them, causing commentators to speculate that the club was wildly over-valued before the current crisis. BBC’s John Motson described the move as ‘perhaps the most extraordinary day in British football’ and an ‘absolute humiliation for Spurs, as if any more were possible.’

The injection of fifty points takes Tottenham Hotspur from the very bottom of the Premier League to the very top, where they are now 32 points clear of Chelsea on 52 points with only 7 games played. They are now well poised to become this year’s premiership winners gaining automatic qualification for the Champions League. Other clubs have complained against what they claim is unfair treatment for one particular club and say the junior minister of sport who announced the injection of points is a well known Spurs supporter who has acted without any authority of consultation with government colleagues. The Junior Minister would not discuss this accusation at a press conference saying only ‘Shut it Gooner! We would have nationalized the North Bank if they hadn’t already flogged it off!’

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What about the game tomorrow?  Top versus bottom - but are Spurs on the ascendency with the 'Arry factor, or did their comeback and Arsenal's collapse just hide their defensive problems?

The missus will be at White Hart Lane tomorrow as she's a fully-fledged member of the prawn-sandwich brigade and has a ticket in a box through corporate sponsorship.  Unfortunately, she can't get me a ticket... so I'll have to make do with setanta :(

I think it'll be a tough game irrespective of positions.  Think both teams will be tired, I wouldnt expect a full blonw game, think Rafa will set them up as per away games V Chelsea, Everton, Villa, point wouldnt be awful and i'd have bitten your hand off for 7/9 at the start of the week...

If Hutton and Gomez play you will easily win.

The RSPCA have acted very quickly after last nights incident.

If you see an Arsenal fan with a dog, please ask them to call 0800 4-2 4-3 4-4 for free advice on how to hold onto a lead.

I have a sickening feeling Spurs will win on the weekend.

Bottom vs top, Harry's honeymoon, Liverpool looking very good and hard to beat - it just has a romantiscism about it that makes me think we'll lose.

Blatant "reverse bok" attempt post imo.

If Spurs win and Newcastle win does that mean Spurs are the bigger club again or is it a tie?

What about the option of newcastle being the bigger club is that also available or is it just spurs or a tie ?

i was assuming that right now Newcastle were the bigger team

didnt take you long to bite though

LOL I was just kidding mate the whole debate is pretty pointless tbh i wouldn't say we were right now a couple of points doesn't settle much i would say spurs were in a better position than we are at the moment as i don't see them being at the bottom for very long.

Hopefully for another week though...

Shite.

back where they belong

Im not bothered about being bottom tbh, with 2 points and having games away against the @rse and home to liverpol, and to now be on 9 points, I will take that any day.

Fulham
West Brom
Stoke

will be bottom three, we will finish 10th or 11th.

Bolton
Fulham
West Brom

for me

Good night in Europe and for the other English teams.  ;)

Bent double another nice win, looking good for suprs.

fyp  :D

we might have to start a Man City to get relegated thread soon

Must admit I was thinking of starting a Citeh crisis thread.  :)

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee IN YOUR FKIN EYE ROBHINO, HUGHES, INDY AND ASA.


RIGHT IN IT .... DEEP

sigh

mbsfn having the ref help...

still feel the same way kev?

the guy is class and hopefully you're finally starting to see it. all he needed was a manager who knows how to play him, let him hang on the shoulder of the last defender and he will score for fun

i always said this was gonna be bents season. now the goals are really coming. top scorer this season - mark my words

Kevs admited he was wrong over Bent but its fun to keep rubbing it in :) i bet he is happy Bent keeps scoring.

lool  all strikers go through a purple patch where they can do no wrong........this is Bents time.......good luck to the lad,but if Spurs think he is the man to get them 20-30 goals per season then i am afraid they are very much mistaken.

Wiki on Bent -

"Bent was a supporter of Arsenal, and used to have a season-ticket at Highbury.[2] He was handed a formal warning by police in June 2004 after he was alleged to have shot a 12-year old with a pellet gun.[3]"

unless we base it on evidence that is. before joining spurs and being played oop or sat on the bench he played 2 seasons of premiership football in a shit team with very little service and still managed 37 goals as he was allowed to run off the last defender.

with the service he'll get at spurs and harry playing him in position I think he'll now show himself to be the quality player I watched for those 2 years

i hope he does turn out to be the striker you think he is,i am not posting just to have a go at Bent,i actually think he is a decent player,but in my opinion,he is never going to be a striker Spurs will be able to rely on to win them games season in season out.

Amazing turnaround by Redknapp

but surely the Spurs players should be professionally extremely embarrassed by their gutless displays under Ramos (and some of them before that under Jol) only to turn it on as soon as Harry arrives?

Sure HR must be a great motivator, and some moves such as playing Modric in the right spot are contributory...

but the players.....just show how temperamentally deficient they were before Redknapp arrives.

but what's your reason for thinking he's not that player? if you look at the 5 seasons he played before juande ruined him for a season he hit 93 goals. with the 11 he's hit this season by early november that's quite a purple patch.

and without wishing to bok him he never gets injured

spurs will finish mid table, a place they would have finished under ramos as well imo. redknapp has galvanised what he has there which is a fairly decent squad but they are still lacking plenty needed to challenge the big boys on a consistant basis imo.

bent may not be the greatest player in the world but he knows where the goal is thats worth plenty

The gap between everton in 7th and Sunderland who are second bottom is a mere 6 points.  With the players they've got, a top-half finish is a probable imo.  But they're obviously way off competing with the top 4.  The tightness across the league should make it interesting this season.  For the detractors of the premiership, the gap between the top 4 and the rest of the league is still very evident.

yes but that's 5 years played in shit teams with no service rather than spurs' midfield

to give you an idea of how highly thought of he is by people who've watched him week in, week out; about a month ago charlton were in takeover talks with zabeel, a deal that would've given us more money than man city. no-one really believed that the deal would go through but obv that didn't stop discussions on the forums about who we'd like to see at the valley if we had ridic amounts of transfer funds and could get anyone we wanted. first choice on most peoples list was darren bent

I think the Charlton fans list is the only list Bent would come top of.

because we're the only ones to have seen him at his best in position

as I'm bored I just decided to check how he compares to other english strikers. in the 3 and a bit seasons he's spent in the premiership he's scored more than all but 1 of england's main 4 international strikers. only rooney has outscored him, defoe, crouch and owen all suck

Owen has been injured, Defoe not been played and Crouch offers far more to a team. To be outscored by Rooney is quite bad considering Rooney's last two seasons.

Bent is quite easily 5th out of these five in terms of who I'd pick for England.

yep, and bent never is, that is a big reason why I would prefer bent at my club


he's played more games than bent over that period


agreed but I think spurs need a goalscorer more than anything right now (but crouch playing with bent could be awesome)


that's a strange one. most people are bad then on that basis seeing as rooney scored 41 in those 2 seasons


I agree and haven't claimed any different. that might change after a good run at spurs but is certainly the case at the moment

we will finsh either 6th or 7th


Trust me mate, we wouldn't have finish anywhere near the mid table.

• unbeaten against the sky 4 and Citeh, but I take your point.

LOL at Booder. I would rather have Bent then Robbie Keane any day of the week.

[ ] I think Darren bent is alot better than Robbie keane also

Want a bet on who finishes with more league goals?

[ ] Liverpool will win the league with Robbie Keane

[ ] Liverpool will win the league

[ ] Liverpool will win the league without Robbie Keane this season

[ ] Liverpool would win the league if they had Darren Bent

[ ] Liverpool have the depth in their squad to win consistently against mid table teams no matter who they have up front

[ ] Thankfully, Liverpool have Darren Bent instead of Torres

Lol you have a bit of a headstart there don't ya , You see the thing is darren bent does not have a Fernando torres playing alongside him that will take about 30 goals this season that Keane won't get , i'll take a bet that keane and torres outscore bent and pavlyuchenko Hows about that ?

If Spurs played two upfront sure but they wont. You cant complain that keane plays with torres lol, Liverpool create far more chances than spurs will do throughout the season.

I'm just saying Keane aint exaxtly an out and out front man , he's more of a  link man form midfield to Torres, he has other strings to his bow unlike Bent, I ain't having a go at Bent BTW he is a very good finisher imo , I just dont think that the amount of goals someone scores actually makes them the better player

Yep agreed :)

If anyone wants to bet with me that Keane will score more league goals than Bent this season, well I'm all ears, ldo.

well you would say that wouldn't you.

Keane was the 4th best striker at Spurs last season. He simply worked better with Berbatov; the only reason why he was chosen ahead of Defoe and Bent.

I would say it  i guess because i'm irish aswel as a Liverpool fan, that dosent mean it aint true though does it ?

Though it probably isn't wise to argue with your football knowledge who can forget your "Spanish Andy johnson" remark, that showed a real eye for a top striker LOL

 :)up

PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.

Total or league goals Keane vs Bent

I've answered that previously on this thread, for starters Bent has 7 to Keane's 2 thus far , so methinks u have a bit of a headstart

And Bent prob will outscore Keane i have not actually said otherwise either , all im saying is Keane IMO is the better player regardless of goals scored

You'll probably put a curse on him and he'll break his leg ;)

I'm sure that I've seen Keane play far more times then you and you'll have to trust me that Keane isn't as good as Bent.

POLL TIME BABY !!!

[ ] good idea
[ ] online polls are accurate and should always be used to settle arguments

[ ] I was being serious

[ ]  this was not meant as a pisstake for other people who have previously used meaningless poll's

Spurs wouldvve come good at some point even if ramos was still in charge, their squad is better than at least half the league.

As for Keane v Bent. Bent will score more goals but I think if Keane and Berbartov were still at Spurs they would be alot better. I also think Keane will do ok for Liverpool not sure he plays that well with Torres though, maybe better to replace Torres when he is rested. 

[ ] £20m for keane was a bargain

Wrong, the players were not playing for him, they were not giving 100% ... watch any of Spurs games under Ramos and see for yourself. Harry is not the messiah, he is an old school manager who treats players like men and not a commodity, The players would have carried on with shit performances until they got Ramos the sack, just goes to show how players dont give a flying fuck about the fans, it disgusts me tbh.

oh and Wenger will be the next Man Citeh boss ... mourinho wont be.

Kev they beat Bolton about 2hrs after Redknapp took charge, Redknapp had FA to do with this, I think the ITB team wouldve beaten Bolton that day. their next game was against us, a game that the players were always going to be up for no matter who was in charge. We let you off the hook in that game and you got a result....these 2 games built a platform to work on.

I am not convinced about Redknapp's appointment. I think it was a shrewd move from Redknapp, he could take Pompey no further but could take a fairly decent Spurs squad to a top half finish with little effort. I do not think HR is a good enough manager to take you on to challenge the top4, I dont think he is good enough to take you on to challenge the likes of Villa TBH.


Just LOL

Like i said, they werent playing for Ramos ... we would never have beaten Bolton and not a cat in hells chance would we have come back from being 2 behind (twice) to your mob if Ramos was stil in charge.  The players didnt want him, didnt play for him and did what they had to do to get shot of him... thats pretty much case proved imo.

The drugs dont work, they just make you worse!

Goals in all comps please. £20 ok?

ok ldo


easy money

Take out medical insurance, you have been warned !

 :D

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 1-0

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 2-0

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 3-0

You are playing the reserves + an unfit torres lol, but keep going, Spurs do need to have a chance of winning something this year.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz OK.

We did your first team, Rafa knew they werent up to the job so he sent this mob out ... we can only beat whatever 11 mugs you put out. the record books will show it as HT Spurs 3-0 Liverpool.  IN YOUR EYE.

Lets see what happens when you lot come to Anfield, yeah?

Lol I've had 3 texts from Spurs fans already dishing out the abuse, didn't have one when they beat our first team. And scousers get it for being a little slow?

PS Nem thank fook Bent isn't playing. Even that kipper would have scored by now ;)

LOL you might get there yaself to see a game one day.

Gomez Vs Dossena for worst defensive act of all time? LOL!

sighhhhhhhhhhhhh ...

1 attempt at goal, 1 gomes fuck up = 1 goal.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 4-1

I'm still laughing at such classics as "McClaren will be a success as England manager", "Gomes will be great for Spurs", "Torres is the Spanish Andy Johnson", "Alonso is another average Spanish squad player" and my recent favourite... "I'd rather have Bent than Keane".

Next it'll be, "I'd rather win the Carling Cup than the league! No really I would...."

Gomez is the best. Maybe ever. Definitely in the last 10 years.

2 on target, 2 gomes fuck ups = 4-2

Nem will be along to defend him shortly  ;dingdell;

It could be worse. We signed Dossena (supposedly Italian defender) for 7 million odd. That was before Benitez was in rehab.

well that solves that problem, hope he isnt too badly hurt, but i hope he goes off.

Yeah but who the hell is Gomes keeping out of the team.

If he does it's game over. He's our best player. Hope he's ok though.

Burnley have equalised at Chelsea ... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

LMFAO ... thats so true.

Ex Real keeper Cesar?

Oh my life he's quality - how the fuck has he not been playing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9sar_S%C3%A1nchez

It appears so.

Had a couple fo decent seasons at Zaragoza - cannot believe he's been on your bench. He's pretty old but solid.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee WP Spurs, and come on Burnley !!!

Arsenal put 6 past us with their kids a year or two back. Still the third best team in North London after the Gooners and Enfield Town.

(Only comeback I have - dont judge me)

gg gl gfy

Spurs 4-2 Gomes

PMSL. So true. We were terrible.

Pens at Stamford bridge ... come on Burnley !

Burnley score - 1-0

Chelsea (Lampard) score - 1-1

Burnley (Mahon) score - 2-1

Chelsea (Bridge) MISS - 2-1

Burnley (Eagles) score - 3-1

Chelsea (Kalou) scores - 3-2

Burnley (McDonnell) score - 4-2

Chelsea (Ferreira)...

scores. 4-3. It's down to Elliott of Burnley...

fkin Elliot missed

who...MISSES! 4-3.

what a c*nt

Down to Malouda, and he's scored. Sudden death...

(why am I doing this...cos I'm bored.)

Burnley (Duff) scores...

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET THE FUCK IN !!

and Chelsea (Mikel) MISSES!

one time

when is the draw?

Chelsea lost?  Is that correct? 

Spurs beat Liverpool? 

FML, they're not going to get relegated now are they (obv different comp, but they're getting goodish)

Unreal

I had....... Spurs 3 - 2 Liverpool @ 33/1
It ended... Spurs 4 - 2 Liverpool

FML

IN CHEALSEA'S EYE,THE MUGS LOL

I seem to recall Nem claiiming Ledley King was better than Carra also , that was a LOL moment

The only thing Carra is betting than King at is break dancing and not getting injured.

I like football, so the sight of Gomes is starting to tilt me. Paul Robinson must be thinking lol.

You sir need to remove the blinkers WTF has King ever done to be mentioned in the same bracket  as Carra ? Nothing would be the answer !

Carra is an immense player who has dragged Liverpool through umpteen matches with just pure guts and determination, any budding centre half needs to look at Carra and take stock , 110% effort every match , body on the line etc.....

You will come back probably and say King blah blah blah , i ain't having it , it's not even a debate , Carra is different gravy

I dunno I got slated for saying how bad Gormless was a few weeks ago, hes not bad hes fuking usless.

You got slated by Nem to be fair, his opinion lacks any shred of credibility when it comes to Spurs, so it doesnt count.

PS. If I was in the fraud squad, i would be nicking Gomes for impersonating a goalkeeper.  He is fucking useless and has to go.

lol I didn't want to name but yeah :)

I didn't see Robinson last year much but was he really that bad?

He was shite, but a million miles better than Gomes, I hope Harry gives Cesar a run in the side now and gets Alnwick back from his loan at Carlisle ... Then in January SIGN A FKIN KEEPER !!

shay given FTW

The Carragher/King discussion is pretty flawed. Carragher has made the most of the limited talent he has, he obviously has a wonderful attitude towards playing the game but he doesn't do anything particularly well, wouldn't want him in the Swans side ;-).

King is obviously much more talented and has looked comfortable in international football, something carragher never did. If you managed Liverpool you'd probably rather have Carragher, although it's marginal. If you managed anyone else you'd be much better off with King and it's not really that close.

Lol at this post , i aint getting into it , but i do believe that post has to be a wind up because it's pretty far off the mark

But Kings knee's mean he wont ever play often enough to be a major asset to any club. You can have all the talent in the world but if your body is injured and you cant play it dont matter. I am not sure you can say carra has limited talent :) limited based on what? being one of the best defenders for 10 years in this country, playing consistently without major injuries? as apposed to king who will never amount to anything which is a shame. Redknapp would swop king for carra any day.

WP Sir

AFAIK defending is all about funnilly enough defending , carra is definitely in the if in doubt, launch it category but he aint payed to ponce around on the ball and wear fancy boots he's there to stop the ball going in the net , and trust me he does everything thats physically possible to achieve this in every game

AFAIK??? It's the only forum acronym I don't know, I think.

obv. I was pulling your leg a bit in the first post, I just thought the dismissive tone towards King was harsh given that he is a very talented footballer (acid's good point about the injuries aside) Be nice if he could stay fit for a few seasons I genuinely think he has all the attributes to be one of the premiership's best defenders. Carragher has a done a magnificent job for Liverpool, no one can knock that.

It was me who christened him "gormless" or "Oh really how gormless" to give him his full name.

Credit where credit is due :)

As Far As I Know :)

Yea was been dismissive because of King , because according to our resident blinkered spud supporter, Carra aint a patch on King apart from break dancing and not getting injured it tilted me slightly , when it coincided with a badbeat on my poker table , i just could'nt hold back

I'll give ya credit  there mate , i have been referring to him as gormless since u christened him that , and it even made me sound funny, witty , clever  in front of my mates

So tyvm !

Do you want our reserve keeper...?

:dontask:

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GG

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/uploads/assets/docstore/Booklet_Web.pdf

[ ] Discussing football with nemesis is worthwhile
[X] I've seen carragher make tackles like that king one many many times
[X] Carragher is underrated by most on here imo
[ ] It would be hard to go and find vids of king fukn up against much lesser players than henry
[ ] You would've shown a cock up of carra against your biggest rivals if there was many others to show

I think Carragher is a good, solid player. But he isn't in King's class.

When both were fit in EURO 2004 King was chosen to play against France.

King>Woodgate>Carragher

^^

I would be very surprised if anyone else disagrees?

I disagree.

+1

I don't think there is too much scope to disagree in terms of ability, but that's not to say it's the order you'd sooner have them in your team or squad. King can't be regarded as a top class defender now imo.

Obv considering he's never actually done anything

Ability for a defender is more than being able to dribble with the ball.  Organisation, command of the defence, decision-making, reading of the game, etc., are all part of a defender's ability.  In those areas Carragher is top drawer.

Yeah but King can count up to 10 and string a sentence together ;)

::)

In all fairness I think Carragher is a good solid Premiership defender (although Henry did rape him most times) I think had King not had the injuries he has had I think he would be a top class defender.

If both were fit King > Carra

Henry raped everyone - he was easily the best forward in the world at his peak. 

But if my aunt had bollocks she would be my uncle so its irrelevant because his knees are fuked.

FYP

Nail on head.

Who gives a fuck what Sven Goran Eriksson thought in two thousand and give a shit?

As I said in the Paisley/Ferguson Mourinho/Benitez discussion on here a few years back, the legends of the game are remembered for trophy defining greatness and their contribution towards it. King has achieved very little and it's even debatable what aspects he's better than Carragher in - certainly not defending. On top of this he's never consistently played at the highest level, ie the Champions League (IMHO CL>International Football).

If Spurs fans think King is better that's their opinion but history books and anyone with sense will say different. Same argument for Woodgate.

Talent and potential alone means fuck all. Look at Ryan Babel.

Even Joe Kinnear is asking the question

  FOOTBALL NEWS 
 
 Given - Tottenham target.

KINNEAR: SHAY TRANSFER NOT A GIVEN
 Newcastle boss Joe Kinnear has warned Tottenham counterpart Harry Redknapp to save the price of a phone call if he intends to step up his interest in Shay Given.

The new Spurs manager, who has made a blistering start to his reign at White Hart Lane, has made no secret of his admiration for the 32-year-old Irishman, who has returned to top form after finally shaking off his injury problems.


He said: "I can save Harry the time and money and tell him not to bother even picking up the telephone, because there is no way Shay Given will be leaving this football club.

"We want to build up Newcastle United and get good players in, not good players out.

"And why would he want to go to Spurs? This is a bigger club than Spurs."

 
 

I think you may have added that last sentence Jim LOLOLOL

quoted from sportinglife

its a question that is now out there and i think it needs discussing

i dont know why this hasnt come up before

the people need to know

FYP

The only thing about Newcastle United that is bigger than Spurs is their stadium (which wont be for long) and their supporters.

Ooooops gormless has struck again :)

uh oh, looks like another GK disaster: stelling: "one of the worst GK howlers you'll ever see"

Yeah Kamara was pissing himself laughing, looking forward to seeing it again. Starting to make Taibi look like a shrewd signing.

Gomes is the best.

This post seems to be missing something , oh yeah thats right it's a blank box

[ ] Gomes is the best :)

No really... he's the best!

I cant wait till Kev posts on it!

From the BBC website:

"1534: GOAL Fulham 1-0 Tottenham
A howler from Spurs keeper Heurelho Gomes. Simon Davies strikes at goal, the ball glances off the head of Jonathan Woodgate and the Spurs keeper somehow allows the ball to slip through his hands."

Have they really not got a capable reserve keeper or is Harry trying to total devalue the resale value of Gormless lol

Kind of assuming that ability when talking about a defender is more focused on positioning, decision making, heading, pace etc with them being more relevant than typical technique type skills.

Remove fitness and the order is King, Woodgate and Carragher - purely on Caragher's pace leaving him lower (I'd love to see his level in a non Liverpool shirt but tha is a different story). Age obviosuly comes into as well looking at this moment in time. Sadly, its all aout what happens on the pitch, and how often - so what you'd actually have in your team might be completely the opposite order.

If Shay Given leaves Newcastle, I'll walk and follow him.

Spurs new staduim will be ready before the Olympics??! Some of these people on the 'waiting list' might actually have to put their money where their mouth's are is you can find the money for it.

Seriously Gomes needs putting down, like a two legged dog. He must be 90% of the reason for spurs being where they are. If I was in goal for them the defence would have more confidence.

Not sure how many more posts in a row I can have on a Spurs thread....

Wait no further Sir ... ;)

To be honest, I am fuming ... after the "injury" in the last game, this was the perfect opportunity to leave the fkin clown out of the side and give Cesar a game, to persevere with that dick is ridiculous. I understand re-sale reasons, but come on, we aint ever gonna get a fraction of what we paid for him anyway.

Someone needs to grow a pair and say "Gomes, thanks and all that, but fuck off and do one, you are a liability" .... 

Does this mean you agree with Nem ??

Or are you quoting it to make the point that he should never give up his day job and become a talent scout ?

lol. I'll go for your 2nd option.

The should call you The Postman! Never fails to deliver!

Why dont you say what you really think? ;)

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Loooooks goooooooooooood.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7784290.stm

from the bbc site
The architect responsible for the project says the capacity for the stadium will be confirmed within the next month and is expected to be between 55,000 and 60,000.

55 to 60 is that all :P

55-60k seats wtf does london want another white elephant for?

I suppose the fee would be cheaper for the design when you just copy it from one down the road.

Will spurs be able to fill that stadium?However i like the look of it,least it's not just another meccano job like so many these days.