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Title: 5/1 City Post by: TheWhisper on September 20, 2009, 10:16:43 AM I have no idea what way this game will go but 5/1 Man City to beat Man Utd seems way too big.
Historically these games have been tight and given the form of City I am surprised that such a big price is on offer. Worth a dabble? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: chrisbruce on September 20, 2009, 10:22:25 AM you can get 6-1 on bf at the mo
good luck Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: TheWhisper on September 20, 2009, 10:25:43 AM TY Chris
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Maxriddles on September 20, 2009, 10:39:53 AM you can get 6-1 on bf at the mo good luck I fancy United to win the game but 6/1 city seems huge. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: DaveShoelace on September 20, 2009, 10:43:57 AM Thats obscene value, I too fancy Man U, but have just stuck a lump on City
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: TheChipPrince on September 20, 2009, 11:01:49 AM Anyone for a Spurs/City double @ 40/1?
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: The Baron on September 20, 2009, 02:00:45 PM 6/1 is ridic. I'm all over it.
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: vinni on September 20, 2009, 02:11:38 PM any one got any live links for this .
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: GreekStein on September 20, 2009, 03:35:53 PM how the fuck does the ref justify that? 5 and a half minutes!?
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: WarBwastard on September 20, 2009, 03:36:40 PM how the fuck does the ref justify that? 5 and a half minutes!? Farcical really but standard at Old Trafford when they need a goal. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2009, 03:37:00 PM how the fuck does the ref justify that? 5 and a half minutes!? obv doesnt like the camel and wants to screw him over with the owen 10 goals Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: George2Loose on September 20, 2009, 03:38:45 PM weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: GreekStein on September 20, 2009, 03:39:13 PM thats really pissed me off. so annoying. No-one gets treatment like that.
Will the ref have to give some reasoning? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Nem on September 20, 2009, 03:40:16 PM he gave 3 minutes extra for a goal and a sub. 2mins at most
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: iwillwinlots on September 20, 2009, 03:41:15 PM thats really pissed me off. so annoying. No-one gets treatment like that. Will the ref have to give some reasoning? what was the original extra time? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: bolt pp on September 20, 2009, 03:42:15 PM always happends to liverpool chelsea and man u, they get as much extra time as they need, it's laughable
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: George2Loose on September 20, 2009, 03:45:59 PM Stop whinging. You all know the score. If it was still 3-2 there would have been no injury time.
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: WarBwastard on September 20, 2009, 03:47:06 PM United get that free-kick with about 95 minutes on the clock the referee is actually waving the players forward. Very odd.
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: bagel on September 20, 2009, 04:10:14 PM complete disgrace.really want to hear ref justify that.what it the point of parading an electronic board to 60000 people,when it says 4 minutes and he plays six or seven.even though i despise united,they did deserve the win.not like that though.COME ON SPURS.
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: cambo on September 20, 2009, 04:14:12 PM awesome game
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: TightEnd on September 20, 2009, 04:16:53 PM Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought
No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Girgy85 on September 20, 2009, 04:25:08 PM Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win This WTF was Ferdinand doing? Big lump of wood IMO! Give Jonny 'mfcking' Evans a run in the team! Different gravy IMO Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 09:32:00 PM Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought [/b]No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win Ern debates seem to be hard to come by on here at the minute but that's all this is,but no they didn't, yes they were the better team but they didn't deserve to win because the final score should've been 3-3 the fact there was 4mins in the 1st place was a joke the fact that the ball was in the centre circle on 94:40 and the ref didn't blow is not explainable something is wrong here and this isn't blown out of proportion this always happens at old trafford more than anywhere,there wasn't one stoppage in the game after 90mins so why on earth where the still playing ???????? BTW, one i have a bet on owen scoring so many goals so it was good for me and two i actually like man u they play good football and can be a joy to watch and you may not believe this but i'm not jealous at all as i'd rather be a newcastle fan than a man u fan as 90% of there fans don't even care,they could win every single trophy but it wouldn't mean as much as if we won the carling cup,cba to get into this seperate debate but i dont understand why any football fan would not want to see newcastle/leeds in the prem yes we don't have a right to be there but IT IS where we belong and some other clubs also that was just an example ;D Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 10:29:35 PM Just watching motd ,how berserk is bellamy lol
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 20, 2009, 10:32:39 PM so motd do the sums for us
90+4+.56 for the celebration +.30 for the substitution=95.26 and the goal was scored at 95.27 not really a lot to argue there, I think the ref's entitled to be out by a second or 2 Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: kukushkin88 on September 20, 2009, 10:38:46 PM If you actually added up the amount of time the ball wasn't in play you would play 150 mins+ plus every game. It was the biggest piss take i've seen in pro sport, great game though.
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: TightEnd on September 20, 2009, 10:39:11 PM Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought [/b]No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win Ern debates seem to be hard to come by on here at the minute but that's all this is,but no they didn't, yes they were the better team but they didn't deserve to win because the final score should've been 3-3 the fact there was 4mins in the 1st place was a joke the fact that the ball was in the centre circle on 94:40 and the ref didn't blow is not explainable something is wrong here and this isn't blown out of proportion this always happens at old trafford more than anywhere,there wasn't one stoppage in the game after 90mins so why on earth where the still playing ???????? BTW, one i have a bet on owen scoring so many goals so it was good for me and two i actually like man u they play good football and can be a joy to watch and you may not believe this but i'm not jealous at all as i'd rather be a newcastle fan than a man u fan as 90% of there fans don't even care,they could win every single trophy but it wouldn't mean as much as if we won the carling cup,cba to get into this seperate debate but i dont understand why any football fan would not want to see newcastle/leeds in the prem yes we don't have a right to be there but IT IS where we belong and some other clubs also that was just an example ;D where does this rant come from? I personally couldn't give a jot whether Newcastle and Leeds were in the Prem. They have underperformed, therefore they aren't. By your logic the likes of Preston and Huddersfield "belong" in the Premiership..each had considerable top flight success in the last 100 years, Blackpool too It's one of the good things about British football that Wigan, Hull and the like can get there on merit..managed far better than some of the bigger underperformers they are currently above Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 10:43:03 PM Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought [/b]No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win Ern debates seem to be hard to come by on here at the minute but that's all this is,but no they didn't, yes they were the better team but they didn't deserve to win because the final score should've been 3-3 the fact there was 4mins in the 1st place was a joke the fact that the ball was in the centre circle on 94:40 and the ref didn't blow is not explainable something is wrong here and this isn't blown out of proportion this always happens at old trafford more than anywhere,there wasn't one stoppage in the game after 90mins so why on earth where the still playing ???????? BTW, one i have a bet on owen scoring so many goals so it was good for me and two i actually like man u they play good football and can be a joy to watch and you may not believe this but i'm not jealous at all as i'd rather be a newcastle fan than a man u fan as 90% of there fans don't even care,they could win every single trophy but it wouldn't mean as much as if we won the carling cup,cba to get into this seperate debate but i dont understand why any football fan would not want to see newcastle/leeds in the prem yes we don't have a right to be there but IT IS where we belong and some other clubs also that was just an example ;D where does this rant come from? I personally couldn't give a jot whether Newcastle and Leeds were in the Prem. They have underperformed, therefore they aren't. By your logic the likes of Preston and Huddersfield "belong" in the Premiership..each had considerable top flight success in the last 100 years, Blackpool too It's one of the good things about British football that Wigan, Hull and the like can get there on merit..managed far better than some of the bigger underperformers they are currently above It wasn't ment as a rant and the final point i said i didn't even want to debate it and was in no way directed at you.We don't deserve to be in the prem coz we wer shit this is a fact but i think it's a shame that big clubs with big fanbases are in the lower leagues compared to others who aren't but yes those deserve to be there and we don't.Probably had to much to drink to get my point across properly Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Girgy85 on September 20, 2009, 10:44:31 PM Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought [/b]No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win Ern debates seem to be hard to come by on here at the minute but that's all this is,but no they didn't, yes they were the better team but they didn't deserve to win because the final score should've been 3-3 the fact there was 4mins in the 1st place was a joke the fact that the ball was in the centre circle on 94:40 and the ref didn't blow is not explainable something is wrong here and this isn't blown out of proportion this always happens at old trafford more than anywhere,there wasn't one stoppage in the game after 90mins so why on earth where the still playing ???????? BTW, one i have a bet on owen scoring so many goals so it was good for me and two i actually like man u they play good football and can be a joy to watch and you may not believe this but i'm not jealous at all as i'd rather be a newcastle fan than a man u fan as 90% of there fans don't even care,they could win every single trophy but it wouldn't mean as much as if we won the carling cup,cba to get into this seperate debate but i dont understand why any football fan would not want to see newcastle/bradford in the prem yes we don't have a right to be there but IT IS where we belong and some other clubs also that was just an example ;D FYP Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: TightEnd on September 20, 2009, 10:46:45 PM gotcha. Sadly I am sober
Can't have it both ways Mond. In your ideal world the twenty biggest teams would make up the Prem but that would make the dreams of those supporting the other 72 league clubs, maybe 30 of whom have got into the Prem at one time or another, a little dimmer, wouldn't it? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 20, 2009, 10:47:21 PM lolz imo
why would anyone who doesn't support them want leeds/newcastle* in the prem or particularly care what division they're in? I love seeing the big clubs get relegated, I love the small clubs going up and having a shot, it makes football more interesting *point applies to any club, not just the 2 named Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 10:51:28 PM lolz imo why would anyone who doesn't support them want leeds/newcastle* in the prem or particularly care what division they're in? I love seeing the big clubs get relegated, I love the small clubs going up and having a shot, it makes football more interesting *point applies to any club, not just the 2 named So then why does everyone revel in the struggles of both newcastle/leeds.If i was a fan of a club in the prem i would like to have teams such as newc/leeds in the lge for good away trips then wigan/boro(yes they rnt anymore but nobody revellled in there relegation) who have half empty grounds every game Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: TightEnd on September 20, 2009, 10:53:12 PM Probably because they are noisiest Mond, and posting like you've done in here lololol
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 20, 2009, 10:53:56 PM lolz imo why would anyone who doesn't support them want leeds/newcastle* in the prem or particularly care what division they're in? I love seeing the big clubs get relegated, I love the small clubs going up and having a shot, it makes football more interesting *point applies to any club, not just the 2 named So then why does everyone revel in the struggles of both newcastle/leeds.If i was a fan of a club in the prem i would like to have teams such as newc/leeds in the lge for good away trips then wigan/boro(yes they rnt anymore but nobody revellled in there relegation) who have half empty grounds every game who? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: TightEnd on September 20, 2009, 10:55:41 PM lolz imo why would anyone who doesn't support them want leeds/newcastle* in the prem or particularly care what division they're in? I love seeing the big clubs get relegated, I love the small clubs going up and having a shot, it makes football more interesting *point applies to any club, not just the 2 named So then why does everyone revel in the struggles of both newcastle/leeds.If i was a fan of a club in the prem i would like to have teams such as newc/leeds in the lge for good away trips then wigan/boro(yes they rnt anymore but nobody revellled in there relegation) who have half empty grounds every game p.s if I was a supporter of a non top 6 team in the Premiership, I'd want bad teams in there with us, irrespective of how many fans they have. Good away trips completely irrelevant, its about staying up Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Acidmouse on September 20, 2009, 10:56:44 PM Seems to be half of the prem teams fans are always unhappy.
It's good to go down sometimes and win games :) ohh and City got dicked today, funny listening to their fans after the game on Sky sports news saying they deserved to win. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 10:58:35 PM lolz imo why would anyone who doesn't support them want leeds/newcastle* in the prem or particularly care what division they're in? I love seeing the big clubs get relegated, I love the small clubs going up and having a shot, it makes football more interesting *point applies to any club, not just the 2 named So then why does everyone revel in the struggles of both newcastle/leeds.If i was a fan of a club in the prem i would like to have teams such as newc/leeds in the lge for good away trips then wigan/boro(yes they rnt anymore but nobody revellled in there relegation) who have half empty grounds every game p.s if I was a supporter of a non top 6 team in the Premiership, I'd want bad teams in there with us, irrespective of how many fans they have. Good away trips completely irrelevant, its about staying up But we were shit and your guarenteed to beat us at home whoever you are. Would much rather debate the spoiling of a very good game than who deserves/cares/wants teams to be where.Sorry for the noise ;) Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 11:00:58 PM lolz imo why would anyone who doesn't support them want leeds/newcastle* in the prem or particularly care what division they're in? I love seeing the big clubs get relegated, I love the small clubs going up and having a shot, it makes football more interesting *point applies to any club, not just the 2 named So then why does everyone revel in the struggles of both newcastle/leeds.If i was a fan of a club in the prem i would like to have teams such as newc/leeds in the lge for good away trips then wigan/boro(yes they rnt anymore but nobody revellled in there relegation) who have half empty grounds every game who? Look at the newcastle thread and i would imagine there were 10+ blondes who wanted us to go down last season for no other reason than it would be funny.It honestly doesn't bother/matter to me that that's how they felt just find it bit strange Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: sovietsong on September 20, 2009, 11:01:15 PM I find it strange that people bang on about the prem so much, I'm a leeds fan, I was born in leeds and have gone to elland road all my life, whilst playing top flight football is good and i was gutted when we went down it doesnt really make a difference to me.
I go to the games either way and wouldnt swap that to say i support man utd because my uncle did and therefore I have some weak link to them! same goes for all those Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea fans out there who have never been to a game and just picked there team because of the colour of shirt or because of some other stupid link like 'I saw the cup final and picked the when i was 7' just my 2cents! Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Longy on September 20, 2009, 11:01:49 PM Mond we have had this arguement before, I still don't see your point.
Oh and btw if it is about how many people turn up to games Norwich would deserve to be in the top flight before Leeds. http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/attend.html Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 20, 2009, 11:01:57 PM mond, you will seriously struggle to find anyone outside of the north east who particularly cares about what division newcastle are in. it just doesn't matter to anyone else and nor should it
Seems to be half of the prem teams fans are always unhappy. It's good to go down sometimes and win games :) so true. in our last couple of seasons under curbishley when we were a very safe mid table club half the crowd at the valley wanted to get relegated so we didn't have to watch dull, stale bore draws anymore. the atmosphere now that we're 3rd tier is the best it's been for many years, football is fun once again Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 11:02:28 PM Can we just have a debate on the mayweather thread at least i'm happy to admit i know nowt about boxing ;D TBH i'm just glad gatso understood my posts wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: sovietsong on September 20, 2009, 11:03:34 PM Mond we have had this arguement before, I still don't see your point. Oh and btw if it is about how many people turn up to games Norwich would deserve to be in the top flight before Leeds. http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/attend.html lol by 600 fans in your first year in league 1, would love to see that support in your 3rd season! Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 20, 2009, 11:06:19 PM Can we just have a debate on the mayweather thread at least i'm happy to admit i know nowt about boxing ;D TBH i'm just glad gatso understood my posts wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii pardon Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 11:08:53 PM mond, you will seriously struggle to find anyone outside of the north east who particularly cares about what division newcastle are in. it just doesn't matter to anyone else and nor should it Seems to be half of the prem teams fans are always unhappy. It's good to go down sometimes and win games :) so true. in our last couple of seasons under curbishley when we were a very safe mid table club half the crowd at the valley wanted to get relegated so we didn't have to watch dull, stale bore draws anymore. the atmosphere now that we're 3rd tier is the best it's been for many years, football is fun once again This is the main thing that bothers me tbh though,because if people are honest it actually does.People read the shit in the papers and for some reason believe all the hype,believe that all newcastle fans think they DESERVE to win everything this is bs,that we think we are better than all other fans of any other club in the country we don't,think that we don't care about results we just want keeganesque football eh wtf we wer shit yday but beat plymouth more of the same please.There's so much shit in the papers about us and everyone seems to believe it for some reason Longy,i agree with you that norwich are very well supported and good luck in your chase for promotion Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 11:10:15 PM Can i also just say in the defence of man u there away support is the best i've seen up here,they are the true fans and gl to them
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 20, 2009, 11:12:02 PM Can i also just say in the defence of man u there away support is the best i've seen up here,they are the true fans and gl to them yeah, as plastic as the old trafford crowd is their away support is and always has been the best imo Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Longy on September 20, 2009, 11:13:14 PM Mond we have had this arguement before, I still don't see your point. Oh and btw if it is about how many people turn up to games Norwich would deserve to be in the top flight before Leeds. http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/attend.html lol by 600 fans in your first year in league 1, would love to see that support in your 3rd season! Lol i am not even going to try and argue we are bigger team than Leeds, it was just making the point that you simply can't judge where a team should be by how many people turn up to a game. You are as a good as the team you put on the pitch, the game is already boring enough in this country cos of the money at the top end. Without carping on about how Leeds/Newcastle/Norwich/Derby/Forest whoever you care to mention should be in the top flight. Supporting a club and taking an attitude that you don't have a divine right to anything is a lot more sane and enjoyable way to enjoy the game. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 11:13:23 PM Can i also just say in the defence of man u there away support is the best i've seen up here,they are the true fans and gl to them yeah, as plastic as the old trafford crowd is their away support is and always has been the best imo Junnnneeeeeeeee,ours is better ;D Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 20, 2009, 11:14:10 PM Can i also just say in the defence of man u there away support is the best i've seen up here,they are the true fans and gl to them yeah, as plastic as the old trafford crowd is their away support is and always has been the best imo Junnnneeeeeeeee,ours is better ;D you have more topless fat blokes I guess Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 11:14:38 PM Mond we have had this arguement before, I still don't see your point. Oh and btw if it is about how many people turn up to games Norwich would deserve to be in the top flight before Leeds. http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/attend.html lol by 600 fans in your first year in league 1, would love to see that support in your 3rd season! Lol i am not even going to try and argue we are bigger team than Leeds, it was just making the point that you simply can't judge where a team should be by how many people turn up to a game. You are as a good as the team you put on the pitch, the game is already boring enough in this country cos of the money at the top end. Without carping on about how Leeds/Newcastle/Norwich/Derby/Forest whoever you care to mention should be in the top flight. Supporting a club and taking an attitude that you don't have a divine right to anything is a lot more sane and enjoyable way to enjoy the game. Totally agree with this and I'm enjoying the championship Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2009, 11:15:17 PM Can i also just say in the defence of man u there away support is the best i've seen up here,they are the true fans and gl to them yeah, as plastic as the old trafford crowd is their away support is and always has been the best imo Junnnneeeeeeeee,ours is better ;D you have more topless fat blokes I guess I'll take that Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Longy on September 20, 2009, 11:16:04 PM Can i also just say in the defence of man u there away support is the best i've seen up here,they are the true fans and gl to them Agreed Mond, one of the most ferevant group of away supporters I have seen. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: sovietsong on September 20, 2009, 11:17:21 PM yeah the man utd away fans are good though it pains me to say so.
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: sweet potata! on September 21, 2009, 12:37:30 AM If you actually added up the amount of time the ball wasn't in play you would play 150 mins+ plus every game. It was the biggest piss take i've seen in pro sport, great game though. +1 City were bummed! As an aside, did Fergie kinda bend the 30 secs for subs rule? Norm when a team makes a sub in injury time they are trying to eat up the clock so its understandable to add on 30 secs, but Fergie throws on Carrick who sprints on and i'd say the sub took no more than 10 secs to happen , so did Fergie make himself some time? I can't see any other reason why he would have put Carrick on in that spot. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: The Baron on September 21, 2009, 11:07:33 AM If you actually added up the amount of time the ball wasn't in play you would play 150 mins+ plus every game. It was the biggest piss take i've seen in pro sport, great game though. +1 City were bummed! As an aside, did Fergie kinda bend the 30 secs for subs rule? Norm when a team makes a sub in injury time they are trying to eat up the clock so its understandable to add on 30 secs, but Fergie throws on Carrick who sprints on and i'd say the sub took no more than 10 secs to happen , so did Fergie make himself some time? I can't see any other reason why he would have put Carrick on in that spot. That is the only reason I can think of but I dont think there's much wrong with it. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Karabiner on September 21, 2009, 12:07:23 PM I thought it was a bit cowardly of Bellemy to slap that fan who was being held by two stewards at the time.
I t would have been funny and not entirely unjustified imo if the fan had kicked Bellemy in the bollox. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Acidmouse on September 21, 2009, 01:36:49 PM Mond we have had this arguement before, I still don't see your point. Oh and btw if it is about how many people turn up to games Norwich would deserve to be in the top flight before Leeds. http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/attend.html come end of season we be ave 25-26k, just had some right shit teams come to er this season :) Fullhouse tomorrow. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: cambo on September 21, 2009, 05:46:36 PM I thought it was a bit cowardly of Bellemy to slap that fan who was being held by two stewards at the time. I t would have been funny and not entirely unjustified imo if the fan had kicked Bellemy in the bollox. doesnt surprise me , deff the most unlikeable footballer in the country , cant stand the we bellend Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Longy on September 21, 2009, 06:23:23 PM Mond we have had this arguement before, I still don't see your point. Oh and btw if it is about how many people turn up to games Norwich would deserve to be in the top flight before Leeds. http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/attend.html come end of season we be ave 25-26k, just had some right shit teams come to er this season :) Fullhouse tomorrow. Lol Acid they are all shit, there is only 3/4 teams with any draw in the whole league. At least you are beating them, we are celebrating like we have won the league when we get a last minute equaliser. Pity Leeds vs Norwich game is on tv on a Monday night, might have got a bigger crowd on a Saturday. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Longy on September 21, 2009, 06:25:06 PM I thought it was a bit cowardly of Bellemy to slap that fan who was being held by two stewards at the time. I t would have been funny and not entirely unjustified imo if the fan had kicked Bellemy in the bollox. doesnt surprise me , deff the most unlikeable footballer in the country , cant stand the we bellend Bellamy is still held in high regard by Norwich fans, we might be the only ones. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 21, 2009, 06:26:28 PM I thought it was a bit cowardly of Bellemy to slap that fan who was being held by two stewards at the time. I t would have been funny and not entirely unjustified imo if the fan had kicked Bellemy in the bollox. doesnt surprise me , deff the most unlikeable footballer in the country , cant stand the we bellend Bellamy is still held in high regard by Norwich fans, we might be the only ones. Pretty sure most would agree for most hated player El hadj diouf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bellamy Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Rod Paradise on September 21, 2009, 06:40:20 PM I thought it was a bit cowardly of Bellemy to slap that fan who was being held by two stewards at the time. I t would have been funny and not entirely unjustified imo if the fan had kicked Bellemy in the bollox. doesnt surprise me , deff the most unlikeable footballer in the country , cant stand the we bellend Bellamy is still held in high regard by Norwich fans, we might be the only ones. Celtic too - wasn't here for long but was a great player. + 1 on El Hadj Diouf Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: George2Loose on September 21, 2009, 06:49:51 PM Robbie Savage?
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: The Baron on September 21, 2009, 08:28:45 PM I thought it was a bit cowardly of Bellemy to slap that fan who was being held by two stewards at the time. I t would have been funny and not entirely unjustified imo if the fan had kicked Bellemy in the bollox. doesnt surprise me , deff the most unlikeable footballer in the country , cant stand the we bellend Bellamy is still held in high regard by Norwich fans, we might be the only ones. Celtic too - wasn't here for long but was a great player. + 1 on El Hadj Diouf How we miss him/Crouch now. +2 on Diouf Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 21, 2009, 08:32:06 PM I thought it was a bit cowardly of Bellemy to slap that fan who was being held by two stewards at the time. I t would have been funny and not entirely unjustified imo if the fan had kicked Bellemy in the bollox. doesnt surprise me , deff the most unlikeable footballer in the country , cant stand the we bellend Bellamy is still held in high regard by Norwich fans, we might be the only ones. Celtic too - wasn't here for long but was a great player. + 1 on El Hadj Diouf How we miss him/Crouch now. +2 on Diouf He was very good yday but,he's not good enough to make a title winning squad imo.Man city pecking order i would imagine is Adebayor,Robinho,Tevez,Santa Cruz then belllamy and since normally teams who aren't multigazzilionaires only have 4 strikers he wouldn't make the squad otherwise Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: The Baron on September 21, 2009, 11:42:37 PM I thought it was a bit cowardly of Bellemy to slap that fan who was being held by two stewards at the time. I t would have been funny and not entirely unjustified imo if the fan had kicked Bellemy in the bollox. doesnt surprise me , deff the most unlikeable footballer in the country , cant stand the we bellend Bellamy is still held in high regard by Norwich fans, we might be the only ones. Celtic too - wasn't here for long but was a great player. + 1 on El Hadj Diouf How we miss him/Crouch now. +2 on Diouf He was very good yday but,he's not good enough to make a title winning squad imo.Man city pecking order i would imagine is Adebayor,Robinho,Tevez,Santa Cruz then belllamy and since normally teams who aren't multigazzilionaires only have 4 strikers he wouldn't make the squad otherwise Agree but we are crying out for an impact 2nd striker to score 10 goals a season. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 21, 2009, 11:44:08 PM Serious question,why not Michael Owen ?
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Inbetweener on September 22, 2009, 01:07:58 AM Serious question,why not Michael Owen ? The most hated player in England? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: sovietsong on September 22, 2009, 08:02:09 AM I think bellamy has a lot to give man city this year. He is hungry to play and will fight for his place. He has bags of pace and is a good finisher, granted they have better players upfront but I think he provides something different.
He tracks back and can play on the wing, I don't really understand all the hate other than the fact he is a total c***. Btw I think any fan trying to get on the pitch deserves a slap and a new rule should be introduced that players have the right to hit em if they go near them! When brian clough hit that fan we all loved him for it! Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Rod Paradise on September 22, 2009, 09:18:55 AM Btw I think any fan trying to get on the pitch deserves a slap and a new rule should be introduced that players have the right to hit em if they go near them! When brian clough hit that fan we all loved him for it! While I agree with this, hitting the fan after the stewards have got him so he can't hit back is not really on. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: sovietsong on September 22, 2009, 11:35:49 AM I disagree when the fan looked like he was going to spit on him. We are not talking about giving the guy a kicking here, he gave him a 'cowtail' as put by darren gough.
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: sweet potata! on September 22, 2009, 03:13:53 PM so motd do the sums for us 90+4+.56 for the celebration +.30 for the substitution=95.26 and the goal was scored at 95.27 not really a lot to argue there, I think the ref's entitled to be out by a second or 2 Lets see if we can work out some maths here.... Liverpool v West Ham at the weekend in the 1st half there was 4 goals and West Ham had to make two subs due to injury.This all equates to 1 min added time hmmmm. And since when are goals taken into consideration when a ref adds on time? Thats a new one on me, I know it's 30 secs per sub whats the standard add on time for goals? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Acidmouse on September 22, 2009, 03:27:34 PM Man Utd had the least injury time in the prem last season at home, fact.
Hughes needs to stop whinging and realise the best team won. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: TheWhisper on September 22, 2009, 03:33:50 PM Man Utd had the least injury time in the prem last season at home, fact. Hughes needs to stop whinging and realise the best team won. I think you will find it is spelt FACT! Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Bongo on September 22, 2009, 03:54:58 PM Man Utd had the least injury time in the prem last season at home, fact. Hughes needs to stop whinging and realise the best team won. If they were ahead by 1 goal in most games wouldn't it support his point? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: cambo on September 22, 2009, 03:58:20 PM saw it on sky sports news earlier, when man utd are winning they ave 3mins injury time , when they are losing they ave 4.17. stats for rest of the top 4 were all above 4mins cant remember 4.x exactly
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Longy on September 22, 2009, 04:02:55 PM saw it on sky sports news earlier, when man utd are winning they ave 3mins injury time , when they are losing they ave 4.17. stats for rest of the top 4 were all above 4mins cant remember 4.x exactly Yeah but a lot more likely that the opposition will be wasting time if they are winning at old trafford. Sample sizes for this are terrible as well. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: cambo on September 22, 2009, 04:16:10 PM yeah think that was last seasons stats only
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 22, 2009, 04:45:23 PM Lets see if we can work out some maths here.... Liverpool v West Ham at the weekend in the 1st half there was 4 goals and West Ham had to make two subs due to injury.This all equates to 1 min added time hmmmm. the ref in the liverpool game not being able to add up has no bearing on whether the ref in the united game was right the whole thing is lol really. both teams got the same amount of added time. he didn't let united play on for a bit while city sat in the changing rooms I can understand when people have moaned in the past about united getting added time in games they were trailing but it makes no sense in games that are all square, no team gains an advantage if city had scored a late winner would hughes have moaned about how united got too much time? also bear in mind that when 4 minutes of additional time is indicated that is a minimum. the ref may well be planning on playing 4.55 but would still have to display 4.00 as it is done in whole minutes and the amount played cannot be less than that displayed Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Karabiner on September 22, 2009, 04:46:16 PM I disagree when the fan looked like he was going to spit on him. We are not talking about giving the guy a kicking here, he gave him a 'cowtail' as put by darren gough. El Hadj Diouf always looks like he's about to spit at somebody, does that mean it's okay for anyone to slap him anytime ? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: sweet potata! on September 22, 2009, 04:52:19 PM Lets see if we can work out some maths here.... Liverpool v West Ham at the weekend in the 1st half there was 4 goals and West Ham had to make two subs due to injury.This all equates to 1 min added time hmmmm. the ref in the liverpool game not being able to add up has no bearing on whether the ref in the united game was right the whole thing is lol really. both teams got the same amount of added time. he didn't let united play on for a bit while city sat in the changing rooms I can understand when people have moaned in the past about united getting added time in games they were trailing but it makes no sense in games that are all square, no team gains an advantage if city had scored a late winner would hughes have moaned about how united got too much time? also bear in mind that when 4 minutes of additional time is indicated that is a minimum. the ref may well be planning on playing 4.55 but would still have to display 4.00 as it is done in whole minutes and the amount played cannot be less than that displayed So what is the standard add on time per goal? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 22, 2009, 04:56:42 PM So what is the standard add on time per goal? I believe the clock should be stopped between the goal being scored and the kick off being taken as the game is stopped rather than the ball just being out of play. this is why everyone is referring to the length of the celebration I'm not 100% sure on this though as you often see players rushing to get the ball out of the net and back to the centre spot though it wouldn't be surprising if players didn't actually know the rules Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: boldie on September 22, 2009, 04:59:47 PM Sigh, they should just get rid of this nonsense and have 2x 15 or 20 minutes pure playing time...problem (if there is one) solved.
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Karabiner on September 22, 2009, 05:00:32 PM I'm pretty sure that Dermot Gallagher said that 45 secs. was added on for Bellamy's goal celebration.
Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 22, 2009, 05:02:39 PM Sigh, they should just get rid of this nonsense and have 2x 15 or 20 minutes pure playing time...problem (if there is one) solved. I would hate this it'd be all gay like american sports with players running down the clock with the crowd counting down the last 10 seconds and everyone knowing exactly what the situation is. takes away all the suspense at the end of tight games Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: sweet potata! on September 22, 2009, 05:03:37 PM I'm pretty sure that Dermot Gallagher said that 45 secs. was added on for Bellamy's goal celebration. Yea but is that the standard addon ? Or was it something just magiced out of thin air purely because anything goes at Old Trafford? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: boldie on September 22, 2009, 05:26:47 PM Sigh, they should just get rid of this nonsense and have 2x 15 or 20 minutes pure playing time...problem (if there is one) solved. I would hate this it'd be all gay like american sports with players running down the clock with the crowd counting down the last 10 seconds and everyone knowing exactly what the situation is. takes away all the suspense at the end of tight games yeah, because players don't run down the clock at all now. TBH, I'd hate it as well but to say it takes away the suspense at the end of a game is of course incorrect. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: gatso on September 22, 2009, 05:39:07 PM yeah, because players don't run down the clock at all now. of course they do but they never know how long to do it for so there's still some interest Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: The Baron on September 22, 2009, 08:41:32 PM Lets see if we can work out some maths here.... Liverpool v West Ham at the weekend in the 1st half there was 4 goals and West Ham had to make two subs due to injury.This all equates to 1 min added time hmmmm. the ref in the liverpool game not being able to add up has no bearing on whether the ref in the united game was right the whole thing is lol really. both teams got the same amount of added time. he didn't let united play on for a bit while city sat in the changing rooms I can understand when people have moaned in the past about united getting added time in games they were trailing but it makes no sense in games that are all square, no team gains an advantage if city had scored a late winner would hughes have moaned about how united got too much time? also bear in mind that when 4 minutes of additional time is indicated that is a minimum. the ref may well be planning on playing 4.55 but would still have to display 4.00 as it is done in whole minutes and the amount played cannot be less than that displayed You are forgetting the very important intanglibes such as momentum shift, home field advantage and psychology. To try to suggest this extra time would have benefitted anyone other than Utd at that particular time is pretty ridiculous. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: The Baron on September 22, 2009, 09:15:29 PM Serious question,why not Michael Owen ? No pace and wouldn't suit our style of play but I wish we had him now. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: mondatoo on September 23, 2009, 01:07:37 AM The ball was never out of city's half so there was no danger of man u conceding,my main issue was the ball was in the centre circle around 94:40 and the ref should've blew the whistle then i think the excuses are bs and i've not seen this happen in many other games yet there are loads of late goals.
Serious question,why not Michael Owen ? No pace and wouldn't suit our style of play but I wish we had him now. Morale alone he woulda been a good signing since gerrard & co seem to love him + the fact he's still one of the best finishers in the country i think liverpool should've tried there best to get him Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: david3103 on September 23, 2009, 02:01:00 PM Lets see if we can work out some maths here.... Liverpool v West Ham at the weekend in the 1st half there was 4 goals and West Ham had to make two subs due to injury.This all equates to 1 min added time hmmmm. the ref in the liverpool game not being able to add up has no bearing on whether the ref in the united game was right the whole thing is lol really. both teams got the same amount of added time. he didn't let united play on for a bit while city sat in the changing rooms I can understand when people have moaned in the past about united getting added time in games they were trailing but it makes no sense in games that are all square, no team gains an advantage if city had scored a late winner would hughes have moaned about how united got too much time? also bear in mind that when 4 minutes of additional time is indicated that is a minimum. the ref may well be planning on playing 4.55 but would still have to display 4.00 as it is done in whole minutes and the amount played cannot be less than that displayed You are forgetting the very important intanglibes such as momentum shift, home field advantage and psychology. To try to suggest this extra time would have benefitted anyone other than Utd at that particular time is pretty ridiculous. Not sure how the momentum or psychology is in United's favour given that they had just gifted a third equaliser to City? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: TightEnd on September 23, 2009, 02:03:51 PM Ryan Giggs has just scored. 5-3 United.
Game over. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: AndrewT on September 23, 2009, 02:06:21 PM http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time
Quote Sir Alex Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do, as suspected, benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: Rod Paradise on September 23, 2009, 02:54:40 PM http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time Quote Sir Alex Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do, as suspected, benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches. Some bad use of stats there though. How many teams are going to waste time when they're behind against Man U? And how likely are Man U to waste time when they're ahead at home? Theye're usually going for more goals. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: The Baron on September 24, 2009, 11:24:50 PM Lets see if we can work out some maths here.... Liverpool v West Ham at the weekend in the 1st half there was 4 goals and West Ham had to make two subs due to injury.This all equates to 1 min added time hmmmm. the ref in the liverpool game not being able to add up has no bearing on whether the ref in the united game was right the whole thing is lol really. both teams got the same amount of added time. he didn't let united play on for a bit while city sat in the changing rooms I can understand when people have moaned in the past about united getting added time in games they were trailing but it makes no sense in games that are all square, no team gains an advantage if city had scored a late winner would hughes have moaned about how united got too much time? also bear in mind that when 4 minutes of additional time is indicated that is a minimum. the ref may well be planning on playing 4.55 but would still have to display 4.00 as it is done in whole minutes and the amount played cannot be less than that displayed You are forgetting the very important intanglibes such as momentum shift, home field advantage and psychology. To try to suggest this extra time would have benefitted anyone other than Utd at that particular time is pretty ridiculous. Not sure how the momentum or psychology is in United's favour given that they had just gifted a third equaliser to City? Momentum shift would obviously go to Utd as they are at home and now drawing instead of beating their local rivals, and City's psychology would most likely have been to protect what they had. Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: david3103 on September 25, 2009, 10:45:38 AM Lets see if we can work out some maths here.... Liverpool v West Ham at the weekend in the 1st half there was 4 goals and West Ham had to make two subs due to injury.This all equates to 1 min added time hmmmm. the ref in the liverpool game not being able to add up has no bearing on whether the ref in the united game was right the whole thing is lol really. both teams got the same amount of added time. he didn't let united play on for a bit while city sat in the changing rooms I can understand when people have moaned in the past about united getting added time in games they were trailing but it makes no sense in games that are all square, no team gains an advantage if city had scored a late winner would hughes have moaned about how united got too much time? also bear in mind that when 4 minutes of additional time is indicated that is a minimum. the ref may well be planning on playing 4.55 but would still have to display 4.00 as it is done in whole minutes and the amount played cannot be less than that displayed You are forgetting the very important intanglibes such as momentum shift, home field advantage and psychology. To try to suggest this extra time would have benefitted anyone other than Utd at that particular time is pretty ridiculous. Not sure how the momentum or psychology is in United's favour given that they had just gifted a third equaliser to City? Momentum shift would obviously go to Utd as they are at home and now drawing instead of beating their local rivals, and City's psychology would most likely have been to protect what they had. So all teams that concede late equalisers at home automatically have the upper hand in whatever time is remaining? Title: Re: 5/1 City Post by: The Baron on September 26, 2009, 11:27:47 AM Lets see if we can work out some maths here.... Liverpool v West Ham at the weekend in the 1st half there was 4 goals and West Ham had to make two subs due to injury.This all equates to 1 min added time hmmmm. the ref in the liverpool game not being able to add up has no bearing on whether the ref in the united game was right the whole thing is lol really. both teams got the same amount of added time. he didn't let united play on for a bit while city sat in the changing rooms I can understand when people have moaned in the past about united getting added time in games they were trailing but it makes no sense in games that are all square, no team gains an advantage if city had scored a late winner would hughes have moaned about how united got too much time? also bear in mind that when 4 minutes of additional time is indicated that is a minimum. the ref may well be planning on playing 4.55 but would still have to display 4.00 as it is done in whole minutes and the amount played cannot be less than that displayed You are forgetting the very important intanglibes such as momentum shift, home field advantage and psychology. To try to suggest this extra time would have benefitted anyone other than Utd at that particular time is pretty ridiculous. Not sure how the momentum or psychology is in United's favour given that they had just gifted a third equaliser to City? Momentum shift would obviously go to Utd as they are at home and now drawing instead of beating their local rivals, and City's psychology would most likely have been to protect what they had. So all teams that concede late equalisers at home automatically have the upper hand in whatever time is remaining? That is not what I said. If you see my previous post I mention that this is intangible, not something so easy to measure or define. I cant really be bothered to explain further becuase I have a sneaky feeling you'll disagree no matter what, but I think most people will get what I'm trying to say. |