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One thing that has always amazed me about poker is the small number of female participants. Off the top of my head I can only think of seven well known female players - Jenifer Harman, Annie Duke, Liz Liu(sp?), Jennifer ' Jennicide' Leigh, Issabele Mercier, Kathy Liebert and Evelyn Ng.

I know there must be alot more, and I appologize for any names I have missed. I tried to find statistcs for the amount of male and female online poker players. I could only come up with the link below. It is not really all that decent a site, but it does reveal that an estimated  20% of online poker players are female.

http://www.womengamers.com/articles/poker.php

It is obvious that some female players are just as talented as their male counterparts. However I am abit confused, if a fifth of all online players are female, why don't we see more of them in televised tournaments. Is it possible poker still suffers from a 'male dominated' image. If so, could this account for the low numbers of females playing in televised tournaments in comparison to the high number of males.

I have played with alot of females. In my opinon they are no different to men. Men of course are biologically wired differently to females, as a result we are naturally more aggressive and competative. However, we don't need to hunt for survival like in times gone by and this natural inclination to be the agressor may have dimminished slightly. This may be the reason poker is not a game effected by the two genders. Like other mind sports, poker is a game influenced strongly by intelligence.....Damm, there go's my dreams..lol.   So men and women should be on an equal level

Below is a link showing a list of all the top female players. Just to keep the girlies happy  :D

http://www.onlinepokergirl.com/female-poker-stars.html

I am sure this subject has been discussed to death on Blonde already. If it has , sorry


In the event of any hate mail directed from the female population of Blonde towards Sark79. I love females and I am on your side on this one  8)

Having just played the betfair ladies on line tournamant there is definitely a difference.

No bad language, no sarcastic comments, no tension, just hellos and good luck all over the place. Never experienced anything like it.....

I played agressively to strat and was hitting cards and they accused me of being a man and warning me I would be found out...... so there is definitely a difference.


Tracey

Sorry, I left out poppet, londonpokergirl, TraceT, Charmaine, Mad, ginger,nun,jen ( all listed are good players). Thought I better cover myself .  

Ohh, jesus.  I am sure I have missed someone. If I have I am sorry

 :hello: ;D

 :hello:

Confused look spread over my face?...why the hello's

 :hello: just won my stt xx
shelly xx

 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao  woooosssshhh

Not sure about Snoops but i was just saying hi x

Sark you missed out Jen, she not done too bad this week!!

Women from what i have seen at a recreational level are more intrestead with the social side, as are men, but the men then have the competitive side kick in and thus get hooked to the game a lot easier, more men then carry on playing so then more elevate to 'world class'

oh, ok .  :hello:.    Is this because I am now a hero member.

sorry Jen. I will amend my list

And heard on the grapevine Heid is pretty tasty too!!
and oh yeah what about londonpokergirl Mel!!!
i could go on but wont!!!

OMG Sark, just introducing myself mate, check below:

I do appologize .  I am very sorry  :D

ahhh. I get it Chilli.  I didn't understand. Sorry..lol

 rotflmfao rotflmfao  at least i have laughed very loudly tonight.

And the reason for this post is what???
Two words.... Lucy rokach!!!
not only has she done alot for poker, women all around the world have seen her on tv respect her and have started playing poker because of her!!!!

I wanted to know why there are not more female players in televised events?

This is something which has confused me, 20% of players online are female. So why are there not more in events like WPT, EPT, ect.

Surely with all these females playing, they should have as much of a chance to get to a WPT final table as a man has?

As much as a chance as any one else? Yes sark, but if a field of 300 consists of 20 females then it is just percentages that more men get to these big finals then women surely?  If the field the split 50/50 then i'm sure imo it would be more even.

Another two words for you....Awesome Ali!

and Lucy Rokach is fearsome..only sat on the same table as her once and it aged me.

There are some terrific female poker players on this site. Full stop.

I think the lack of female players in the top echelons has something to do with the history of the game. We are now reaching an age where poker is losing its image of smoky card rooms and overweight shovenistic men gambling their families earnings. The weight of top female players will grow im sure in this enlightened age but it takes time, like black football players pre 1980's.

Im sure if you surveyed online female players and asked them there views on playing live, that there would be quite a few who do not play because of fears over how they would be treated in what still is a male dominated world. The truth is to play at the top level playing live is where it is at.

Poker is a level playing field no matter what your gender and the only reason i think poker will stay mainly male, is that it appeals more to the male ego/ competiveness. Like the fact, despite modern times, football crowds will remain 80/20 male if not more.

I've noticed that there are much more males playing poker, especially in the games with expensive buy ins, of all the big final tables I've witnessed, I've never seen a woman on them, except online poker tables. It's not because we're not good enough but the tourneys just don't seem to attract many women.

The casino started a ladies poker night and it went on for a few weeks then they cancelled it because only a few would turn up, not even 9/10 for a single table.

Exactly what I was meaning Poppet,

I play against alot of players online who are female. But I never seem to see many of them at big televised events. Your example was what I was refering to.  ( I didn't mean the females who I play against in particualr...i meant females in general)

I was going to post something on ths thread regarding logic and common sense but I decided not to.

 ;scarymoment;

LOL

The grove should be for girls because all the boys ever do is play football.

thanks sark for giving me a mention on your good players list. have you ever seen me play? lmao. i think there is a big female presence on blonde and would be curious to know the male/female ratio of members. i was also wondering about high buy-ins as poppet points out. is sponsorship entry something women find more difficult to come by? if so, that might be part of the problem?
also, well done on your hero status. i enjoy your posts and always feel i can contribute to them.

keep up the good work and remebmer the lesson you have learned today. always check you lists before posting names then you wont have to get a hammering from all the ladies here...lol

take care

mad

Mad, the Male to Female Ratio on Blonde is: 6.4:1

I would love to play more live events, but a lot of women players are mothers too remember, it's not all that easy to find someone to look after the kids when you go away for a night, let alone a few days.Hence why there are so many online, you have no sitter problems!

Thanks Mad, it is cool to think of myself as a hero now..lol,  Yea I know I must have missed out alot of names on my list . All I can do is appologize..lol

My reason for this post in the first place was to try and find some figures/ reasons for the difference in numbers. I have to do a really boring stats course for Uni. It is only a tiny part of my course, but I am allowed to pick my own project. I thought It would be possible to do it on the reasons for the differences between online poker figures between men and women. After searching around online for suitable figures, it is just too hard a task to spend time on in relation to the small percentage of my overall mark it counts for. Thanks for peoples comments anyway.

In 'almost' every activity, sport, passtime, club, etc. etc. there is usually a bigger percentage of males than females.

If you could count all the sports people in the world, I wonder what the ratio would be. I'm guessing that there would be a lot more men.

I think there are many reasons for this. The main one being the scientific differences between male and females. It has been proven that there are, believe it or not, certain differences between male and female brains.

If you notice that in general when you talk about cars in a group of people it's usually the men are more interested. The same goes to poker. If you suggested a game of poker to a group of people that have never played before, the men would usually be more interested than the women. Thats a bit of a general statement and of course doesn't apply to everyone.

What about.....

Box-ercise
Yoga
Netball
Hockey
Soap Operas
Knitting
Opera
Ballroom Dancing
Gymnastics
Baton Twirling and fekkin around with pom-poms
Horse Riding
Ballet
Baking
Shopping
Fekkin aboot with pom-poms
Bacardi Breezer drinking
Speaking on the Telephone



oh

and child rearing

Plenty more I'm sure.

The Wolds population is 51% female after all.

If I were a woman, I wouldn't be too concerned about the lack of my counterparts in poker. In fact I'd like things the way they were.

With less women about, men are more likely to make mistakes at the table that you can take advantage of.

I would imagine the main reason for the disparity is that women are far too busy actually doing useful things in society (bringing up kids, clearing up the mess their husbands make etc), and so don't have the spare time that men do to fritter away on poker, fishing, golf etc.

 :)

lol I agree with some of your list but I think a lot of the sport you mentioned, if not 50/50, are still more male dominated.

Ballroom Dancing? Takes two to tango remember. Unless you are talking about lesbian ballroom dancing.

tell me more. quick.

Slow, Slow, Quick Quick, Slow

This is very, very true. But I also know for a fact that the majority of the girls I know, who are between 18-30 and do NOT have the responsibilities you mention above, would rather stay in and watch Eastenders than go an do something else. I'm not talking about ALL women here of course but there is no denying it.

You forgot Mud-Wrestling...  ;scarymoment;

Apparently, at dancing classes they are always on the lookout for men.

They swap partners and the woman take turns to sit out.

Some even go down the fake man route.

More male members of "www.mudwrestlingclub.com" than females I would expect.

I would love to play more live events, but a lot of women players are mothers too remember, it's not all that easy to find someone to look after the kids when you go away for a night, let alone a few days.Hence why there are so many online, you have no sitter problems![/color]
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I'm with Suzanne on that one.   Babysitters too hard to find and online is the easy option
but if theres a tourney that I wanna play its gotta be a few days in advance

Husband, Boyfriend, Partner?

Do me a favour!!!!!

Not impressed, Matt?

She is a consistent winner in the ring games, isn't she?

I can't really comment because I don't play near your level of games at this stage, but she has won over $100,000 in tournaments alone on pokerstars. She can't be that bad. If you add this to her cash game winnings also, she must have talent.

In 2 years she has gone from a new player to a high limit player.

She is also very attractive :D

She has won over $100000 on pokerstars but made a loss winning it. She plays high limits because she is bankrolled, whether she is a consistant winner i wouldnt know i dont watch her. I said do me a favour because you were naming the great female players - to mention her in the same breath with the likes of jennifer harman in my opinion is not possible.

Sorry, maybey my original post was worded wrongly. I should have said 'known' female players outside of internet poker circles.

hubby nope, boyfriend very much in the early stages  of about 5 days or so   ;)

so online it be for a while :)  

Early stages, always the best.

Enjoy it Mel.  ;)

She was only well known to begin with because she happened to be the girlfriend of Gavin Griffin, a young up-and-coming professional in the states. She would travel to all the big tourneys with him and maybe play some of the smaller side tourneys.

Dont get me wrong she is a good player and our paths have crossed in cyberspace on many an occasion - but she has a long way to go yet before becoming one of the top female players. She probably isnt all that well known either outside of internet circles

lol u bet i will tanky :)