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 91 
 on: December 05, 2016, 05:06:18 PM 
Started by horseplayer - Last post by horseplayer
1pt win st Patrick's day 12/1 365 2.50

 92 
 on: December 05, 2016, 05:02:24 PM 
Started by KingPush - Last post by SuuPRlim
Hey! Sorry ransom, tbh your post was as good if not better than anything i could have done  but i'll throw my two lil pennies in the ring!

It's very easy to say to people "this is a terrible idea" or saying that they defo shouldn't do something, and people do this using the information that they have - what you tell them. So many of my school friends told me that poker was NOT a career and that i'd just lose eventually, even at the height of my success my best "real world" friend practically begged me to quit or buy a house or something. I try to really steer clear away from saying to people DO THIS, or DON'T DO THAT etc. The one thing I've said for years though to lots of younger guys coming up is that poker full time really really should be a fun recreation that falls into full time...

When i think back to my days 18-20 when i started out in poker, one thing just stands out in my mind... it was so much fun, honestly SO MUCH fun, I was young, constantly broke, never gave a f**k, stomping around the UK with my mates, no idea about BRM, no idea about ranges etc just having a go, I don't think i really expected to win as much as I just dreamt that I would. I never really felt that much pressure if I had £500 great, £4000 even better span the roll up to £10k amazing. It really actually breaks my heart a little when young guys starting out are just packed into their bedroom scraping by playing 3000 hands of day of 10p/20p hating life, that's just not how it's supposed to be!! The truth is at the start of playing you've gonna have so many leaks and donk off a lot, if you dont enjoy it at this point you'll just struggle and even worse than that you'll have had a miserable time failing.

I know i'm lucky because I grew up in a different time to today, but same thing applies.

Magic makes a great point, I was guilty of this too when i was younger, the "real world" (cringe - we used to call people muggles lol) is actually great, just as the poker world was to me when i was a full time member of it, I think to really make the best of life you just need to be open minded to opportunities as they arise and be passionate and enjoy whatever you do, otherwise you're just a working fool, whether it's 9-5 in a shoe shop or high stakes poker.

My experiences are that poker is a brutal tough cookie to crack, single moments of fortune shape entire careers, once you fall it's very hard to bounce back and probably the biggest risk is when you shoot and miss at poker you're often left completely empty handed, which as a young guy can be very demoralising, often in other endevours when you fail you're left with something to show for your effort. It's a dangerous choice because the nature of the beast is very compulsive, and the line between dedicated pro and obsessed addict is a pretty fine one, throw other things into the ring like ego, pride, "image" and its a potentially slippery slope made even moreso by the very secluded personal nature of the game.

This is not to say never try, of course try poker is amazing game, but be realistic to the risks you take and if EVER you don't enjoy it then stop and do something else, don't be driven to poker by an ideal you have of the top pros crushing the game, so many of the guys you can easily idolise have played nothing but poker for a decade+ without two coins to rub together. You've made a sensible mature decision and hopefully you're rewarded for it by finding something else that you really enjoy whilst continuing to get pleasure from poker, one good piece of advice I would offer though is when you are leaving from full time defo best to take a nice period of cold turkey, otherwise it can have some negative affects on your motivation.

GL MATE, always on skype if you need anything.

 93 
 on: December 05, 2016, 04:49:08 PM 
Started by horseplayer - Last post by horseplayer
1pt win captain swift 10/1 sports book 1.20


 94 
 on: December 05, 2016, 04:23:09 PM 
Started by DTD-ACES - Last post by TightEnd
Boris Becker Becomes a New partypoker Ambassador

Leading online poker brand www.partypoker.com announced today that German tennis legend Boris Becker is to be the newest ambassador for the brand. To celebrate, partypoker is launching a special tennis-themed promotion on www.partypoker.com, called Beat The Ace, starting on 5th December, giving players the chance to play in four $5,000 freerolls with the overall winner playing Boris live, heads up in Germany for up to $25,000.

http://www.partypoker.com/blog/boris-becker.html

 95 
 on: December 05, 2016, 03:52:06 PM 
Started by zerofive - Last post by EvilPie
Good few days of training, but feeling so hungry so eating much more. Probably 500-100KCALs more a day over the last few days. Will definitely monitor it. Weighed in today at 91.4kg. Don't want to go too far over 90 as at that weight I can diet down pretty well in 6-8 weeks.

May have to throw in a few more sessions and even some walks over Xmas. Possibly even some intermittent fasting to keep things balanced.

Fasting? Really?

Are we talking full on day off from eating or just cutting to like 1000 calories?

Fasting doesn't sound a good way of balancing to me. Having a balanced diet would be much more sensible.



Still eating the same KCALs, just eating them in more of a 'window'. Basically, just trying not to eat until around 11am or 12 if I can do it. I did this when I dieted last. I am never too hungry in the morning, so it seems a waste to eat for the sake of it. I can't do this all the time, because if I am hungry I am going to eat. My diet stays pretty much exactly the same though in terms of whats in it. I just change the timings to try and limit my hunger.

Intermittent fasting seems to be on the rise again at the minute.

It's not a waste to eat. You eat to provide your muscles with the fuel that they need to grow. This would be a great time to flick in a low calorie high protein shake. You don't need to satiate your hunger but a protein hit wouldn't go a miss to fuel your muscles. You can get 42g of protein from one of the 255kcal shakes I mentioned and then just cut out 255kcals somewhere later in the day from one of your shit sources such as ice cream.

I can't believe that someone who's so against Ant's vegan, nuts and plants diet would give a moments thought to something which is enough of a fad to be able to be described as 'on the rise again at the minute'...... Perhaps I'm being levelled?

I'm pretty sure that intermittent fasting isn't on the rise with any bodybuilder or strongman anywhere on the planet. Are those not your goals anymore?


 96 
 on: December 05, 2016, 03:41:18 PM 
Started by zerofive - Last post by EvilPie
I've had time to think about how i'm going to approach things in 2017.

Despite hitting the gym frequently enough overall i feel like I wasted my time this year. I took far too many days off, was lazy with ensuring i got the required calories in and def didn't get enough sleep. Critically I had waaaaay too much fast food, too many fizzy drinks, not enough veggies etc...and as a result my progress was basically non-existent with both size and strength. I maintained, but i've also probably lost that now given i haven't done anything for 8 weeks.

Travelling and talking to various people was a bit of an epiphany that these incredible physiques take some serious hard work to achieve. There will of course be people who are genetically predisposed at this shit but it is rare that there is a shortcut for commitment it takes, often over several years. I was naive to think that i could go to the gym frequently enough over a year and automatically see progress. Me more than anyone if i'm going to do this i need to do it properly. My body especially can afford the least mistakes or shortcuts.

The first thing i'm going to do when back is scrap the isolation movements at least for now. Back to 5x5 doing the 5 compound movements of bench, squat, deadlift, ohp and barbell rows and will focus on getting my numbers up rather than my biceps swelling, seeing the latter as a pleasant extra instead. I absolutely refuse to quit, and i hope that the lessons i learnt can make 2017 a much more productive year.

There is nothing wrong with adding some curls in at the end, literally everyone I know does this. Even the WSM guys are now doing it. But definitely want 30-45 mins of big compound movements.

I do think it took me 2-3 years to see the aesthetic progress, albeit I trained for strength from the start (shouldn't have much different to be honest as its still a big stimulus for a beginner). But you should see enough overall growth from the big 5. DL, Squat, Bench, OHP, Chin.

Food is key though, you need to consume a crazy amount of KCALs. Fast food isn't the worst, but if you eat one and then don't eat anything else for the day for being guilty, you aren't eating healthy and you aren't eating enough to gain any mass. So its the worst of both worlds. There is nothing wrong when you are trying to add mass to get in some calorie dense foods. Just eat more than you need so you can actually gain. Adding veg never a bad idea!

Stay consistent, and you cannot go wrong. But don't beat yourself up when things do. Life will always get in the way at times.

Agree 100% with this. Eating shit is better than eating nothing but just try not to do it too often. Every now and then you'll find that you're hungry and all you can lay your hands on is a sausage roll or a petrol station meal deal. Don't beat yourself up, just get the food down you and then put it behind you and forget it ever happened. Just try to get something with a about 30g of protein if you can and stick to water for the drink. That's always worked for me.



That is actually something we agree on nutritionally. Prep always key for this though. IF we can limit the times we have to hit the petrol station because we haven't got any other option, it will only allow more progress. I dont really see the point in McDonalds because its not even like its a social aspect. You just hammer the drive thru and sit in the car. Just seems a lack of prep. If you are going out for a curry or something with friends, I see the logic there much more. Seems far more justifiable. McDonalds etc just feels like self sabotage.

It's actually one of the key areas where supplements can help. Always keep a few protein bars with you and some meal replacement shakes then you'll never need to miss a protein hit again.

I use a MR shake that has 255kcals, 42g protein, 18g carbs and 2g fat. I have one per day after training to keep me going to my mid morning meal and I'll also take one with me to work if I have a meeting that may cause issues with timings for lunch. I'd always prefer to have my tuna but if I can't then the MR will suffice.

Other supplements I keep handy are flapjacks which are 287kcals, 18g protein, 38g carbs & 7g fat and also protein bars which are 258kcals, 23g protein, 29g carbs and 6g fat.

Dependent on what else I've eaten that day I'll select the one that's most appropriate. If I feel I'm a bit low on carbs I'll have the flapjack for example. I've learnt this through doing it for years so I just kind of know where I'm at each day.

 97 
 on: December 05, 2016, 02:57:48 PM 
Started by MintTrav - Last post by MintTrav
China lodges complaint with US over Trump's Taiwan phone call

thought to be the first US/Taiwan leader conversation since 1979

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/03/china-donald-trumps-taiwan-phone-call-complaint-us?CMP=twt_gu

what's worse? if Trump knew the offence the call would cause and still made it or if he didn't know and made it?!

If Trump knew the offence the call would cause and still made it.


But what about looking at this as an olive branch to mend 30+ years of non existant diplomatic relations? You could argue he would have caused offence to Taiwan by not accepting the call?

Not sure which I think is worse, tbh, good Q Tighty.


Oh I thought Trump made the call.

They are spinning it as him just taking a call, but that can't be the case. World leaders never just phone each other in the hope of getting through - it's always arranged. Taiwan may have made the call, which would mean they are not lying by saying he accepted it, but 100/1 it was planned.

I thought Ann Coulter was actually funny for once:
Ann Coulter‏ @AnnCoulter
With his reckless Taiwan phone call, Trump could trigger the wholesale abandonment of Jimmy Carter's foreign policy.

 98 
 on: December 05, 2016, 02:48:15 PM 
Started by zerofive - Last post by EvilPie
I've had time to think about how i'm going to approach things in 2017.

Despite hitting the gym frequently enough overall i feel like I wasted my time this year. I took far too many days off, was lazy with ensuring i got the required calories in and def didn't get enough sleep. Critically I had waaaaay too much fast food, too many fizzy drinks, not enough veggies etc...and as a result my progress was basically non-existent with both size and strength. I maintained, but i've also probably lost that now given i haven't done anything for 8 weeks.

Travelling and talking to various people was a bit of an epiphany that these incredible physiques take some serious hard work to achieve. There will of course be people who are genetically predisposed at this shit but it is rare that there is a shortcut for commitment it takes, often over several years. I was naive to think that i could go to the gym frequently enough over a year and automatically see progress. Me more than anyone if i'm going to do this i need to do it properly. My body especially can afford the least mistakes or shortcuts.

The first thing i'm going to do when back is scrap the isolation movements at least for now. Back to 5x5 doing the 5 compound movements of bench, squat, deadlift, ohp and barbell rows and will focus on getting my numbers up rather than my biceps swelling, seeing the latter as a pleasant extra instead. I absolutely refuse to quit, and i hope that the lessons i learnt can make 2017 a much more productive year.

It's great that you've finally realised that it's not easy. You see these big muscular guys in the gym and often wonder why you don't look the same as them because you're there at the same time doing the same type of lifts. Well here's the thing, they work really f***ing hard at it 7 days a week, pretty much 24hrs a day.

The biggest thing you need to realise is that it takes a hell of a lot of time and effort and that the gym part is just the tip of the iceberg. Nutrition is by far the most important aspect followed by rest/recuperation followed by training.

What are your plans with your nutrition? Are you looking for a sustainable meal plan that will steadily see you make gains or a more drastic approach like bulking/dieting? I personally hate the way Harvey and many others do it with the constant cycling of loads of calories followed by working to a deficit to try to trim the excess fat. To me it just makes zero sense.

Cut out the shit five days a week and focus on high protein, low fat/carb and you can't really go wrong. If you aim for 1.5g of protein per lb bodyweight from lean food types then the calories will take care of themselves. You'll need supplements to avoid a constant day of eating but that's what it takes to get big without getting fat.

Don't get me wrong if it's pure strength you're after then sure go for the calories but if as I suspect you're looking to improve your physique then protein is king.

One more thing. Don't wait 'til 2017. Start today!!


If you are going to bulk you will always gain an amount of fat. Depending on how many KCALs you have depends on how much you put on. Calories are still king for physique goals.

We all cycle calories though no? If you eat the shit then cut it out, thats cycling calories? The only difference is one is tracking the KCALs the other isn't. But whether you are tracking or aren't, you have to be controlling calories to lose fat (unless you SIGNIFICANTLY ramp up exercise).

Supplements will cause you to gain fat if they are misused too, right? If you are having a gainer shake of 1000+KCALs a day if that takes you over your maintenance, why would that not cause fat gain? 1000KCALs of gainer shake and 1000KCALs of ice cream? Gainer shake probably has 60-80g or protein in that, so 250KCALs then the rest is all carbs and fats. Ice cream has maybe 20g of protein in that so 80KCALs and 900KCALs of carbs and fats. So whats the difference between a gainer shake or ice cream plus a chicken breast?

Adding to that, as this time of the year it is SO important to clarify this as so many will fall to it. Why would we want supplements as opposed to food? Why would we want to drink our KCALs not eat them?

Also, it is tough to compare yourself to the guys that really are on it. There are people that focus on it 24/7. But 99% of them that's all they do. There is a 1% that can do all that, work hard professionally and have a social life. But they are the genetic freaks. Most of us will always have to prioritise, and to compare yourself to the local bodybuilder is really tough. The guy in our gym works 10-15 hours a week as a porter (as he doesn't want to 'let it affect his passion', has two kids he isn't allowed to see, lives in his brothers spare room, and has just come out of knee surgery. Looks a beast though!

How can calories possibly be king for physique goals? I used to consume approximately 5500 calories per day to maintain a 16st 10lb lean physique. I never used to actually count the calories though, I'd just make sure that I consumed around 330g of protein and a by product of that was that my calories happened to be about 5500. I know 100% that if I got my protein from different sources my physique would have been very different. If I just ate ice cream then my 330g of protein would probably be about 15000 calories so I'd have been fat. If I'd just eaten 10 chicken fillets a day I'd have had no energy and died. The key is to get that protein from the right source. Calories may well be king when it comes to gaining weight but if you want that weight to take on a particular shape then you need to make sure those calories come from the correct sources.

We don't all cycle calories no. Believe it or not we don't all eat shit and then have to deliberately cut out the shit to offset the damage it caused. I never used to count calories. All I was concerned with was getting that 1.5g of protein per lb of bodyweight. I made sure it came from lean sources and then the calories just take care of themselves.

When I talk about supplements I'm not talking about gainer shakes. I'm talking about using supplements to get extra protein, not extra calories. There are supplements which can provide 70g of protein without 1000kcals. I'm talking hi protein, low carb/fat, you're talking about gainer shakes. They're completely different. The one I regularly use has 70g of protein per 370kcals and I know there are many that are even leaner. The mass building version from the same brand has 800kcals for 70g of protein so I don't use that the same as I wouldn't use a tub of ice cream and a slab of chicken.

I never said to have supplements instead of food. A supplement should do exactly what it says on the tin, SUPPLEMENT...... You eat 4 times per day and then supplement in between to bring your protein intake up to the level you want without blasting too many calories. You don't eat ice cream, you don't eat gainer shakes, you don't eat sausage rolls and you can 100% gain muscle without gaining fat. I know it's true because I did it. I also did it without being a genetic freak.

Perhaps I was one of those guys that are 'really on it' so shouldn't be comparing my past self to myself now. All I'm saying is it can 100% be done and it's not difficult, you just have to want to do it.

Maybe you could try it? I'll give you my old diet plan and you can see what it does for you. Worked wonders for me and I'm pretty sure back then I wasn't training as hard as you do now.

 99 
 on: December 05, 2016, 02:04:43 PM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by RED-DOG



Excellent!

 100 
 on: December 05, 2016, 01:43:29 PM 
Started by George2Loose - Last post by DungBeetle
We were awful yesterday. Performances since the Chelsea game have been very encouraging and have been enjoyable to watch even if the results haven't been great. Yesterday had a bit of the LVG feels about it. Feels like every game is a must win now, which is depressing in November.

This is ridic as well. Nothing going on in this mans head.



The rules of the game are absurd.  Due to the ref missing it there is no ban for this horror challenge yet Pereyra gets a 3 game ban because the ref saw him wave a handbag at McClean!

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