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 on: September 03, 2015, 08:20:32 PM 
Started by TheChipPrince - Last post by Chompy
The Bad Education Movie

WALOFS. If you like Mountain Goats you'll like this. Always thought Jack Whitehall was ok too.

 on: September 03, 2015, 08:15:23 PM 
Started by Eso Kral - Last post by Eso Kral
Running pretty golden obv!

Chi Zhang opens to 3k in mp and we find behind and 3b to 8k with him 4b'ing to 19k and I 5b to 32k and after a short tank he ships 80k total and we call flipping vs red AA 😜

The flop is 678ssx and Chi kindly asks the dealer for the (I'm sure he didn't really want it) but u gotta be careful what u wish for as the came which was followed by the to send us to 250k with the blinds just gone 8/1600/200 (level 9 of 12 played today) and the avg at 81.5k

 on: September 03, 2015, 08:14:24 PM 
Started by Simon Galloway - Last post by BorntoBubble
Love the spreads.

But also hate the spreads, goes to SPIN now 🙈

 on: September 03, 2015, 08:13:56 PM 
Started by The Camel - Last post by Peter-27
How many races will Alonso win in 2015 -none    11/8   20

This one in particular is massively under staked, bad call from me. I guess going in to the season, McLaren were a bit of an unknown. It was possible, albeit unlikely, that once they would be massively quick when they actually finished a race - as it turns out, they are both slow and unreliable!

Talking of F1, our man, Peter, has resumed playing poker & posting Next Door, but I'm sure F1 will remain his primary focus. And spreads, obv.

F1 is always the focus  Grin

I'll post bet suggestions (and reply to the "betting maths" posts from last week) at around 8PM UK Time Smiley

ahead of the bets

with the pirelli investigation complete and remedies for monza in place....i saw this quote

Hamilton on proposed tyre-pressure increase: "We'll be out of the optimum range. More wear, less grip; it's going to be a disaster"

what impact on betting strategy does this have?


ferrari have an engine upgrade. going to change the status quo at all?


monza and spa are similar with monza even quicker. should we extrapolate spa trends to monza?

eg excessive tyre wear for perez?

eg lotus likely to go well again? (grosjean is 6/4 for top 6 having podiumvated in spa...)


The decision on what exactly the conclusions of the Pirelli investigation are is changing on an hour-by-hour basis depending on who in the FIA you talk to .. can't really take it into consideration at the moment. Either way, it won't have a huge effect on the pecking order of the teams.

Ferrari do have an engine upgrade, but Mercedes have used all of their seven remaining engine tokens (that's just the works team, not the Mercedes customers for this race). So I expect Mercedes to have an increased advantage if anything.

Remaining tokens

Renault: 12
Ferrari: 10
Honda: 4
Mercedes: 0

In general pace at Spa is paralleled (and a little more extreme) at Monza. However, the two instances you mentioned are complicated.

Perez's tyre wear was caused by running on the kerbs too much and the resultant energy through the tyre. This should be considerably less of a problem at Monza - as should tyre wear in general if we see normal air/track temperatures.

As for Lotus, it's always hard to place them. Their car is massively inconsistent as they have an extremely narrow set-up window. In other words, it's very hard to effectively set-up their car for specific race tracks, however, when they do get it right, they'll be very fast - as we saw at Spa.

I'll look at the prices now and let you know Smiley

 on: September 03, 2015, 07:58:53 PM 
Started by pleno1 - Last post by Marky147
I take loads of shots with the $10k I take to Vegas Smiley

 on: September 03, 2015, 07:53:53 PM 
Started by leethefish - Last post by EvilPie

I'm in to an awesome stretching routine now and it's doing wonders for me. It's fast becoming an obsession and I could go on about it more than you go on about plants Cheesy

I was reading up the other day about some of the German Companies manufacturing plant based meat replacement products. Some of them look like they might actually taste like meat!! Have you come across these at all in the UK at a reasonable cost?

There was a grilled chicken one that looked like it would make quite a nice vindaloo......

My stretching routine atm is 30 secs hold on most stretches available. Takes me ages but i feel great after.

On the fake meats. I think they will be great for those transitioning from meat, but I question their health especially as they are likely to have oils that no one should really be consuming. Without going off on one and I won't again on this thread unless seriously provoked lol, the closer you get to whole foods the better, with these artificial ones, they are likely to still be bad for you.

I think these synthetic meats are the future though as raising animals for meat is unsustainable and is the biggest contributor to CO2 emissions, being over double the effect of the emissions caused from every vehicle.

Back to the stretching routine. I find it amazing too. It really does make you feel outrageously more limber and you feel it immediately if you slack on the stretching for just one day.

Seems that way. The fact that it takes 22g of plant protein to feed a cow and produce 1g of beef protein (figures from memory so may be miles out but you get the drift) doesn't bode well at all.

The cows are eating all the plant protein just to supply us with burgers that we crave. Why not just eat the plant protein ourselves (and maybe share a bit with those folk in the poor countries) and then sack the cows?

Ethically it's just so wrong but unfortunately steak just tastes too good Sad

 on: September 03, 2015, 07:48:48 PM 
Started by The Camel - Last post by The Camel
Berahino is one of the few players who could have improved Arsenal and a player they could have got given how keen he was to go to Spurs.  

I don't LOL at many of your posts arb, but LOL @ this.

He was so keen to go to Spurs as it is a step up from WBA.

As Arsenal is a step up from Spurs, if Wenger had shown any interest, Berahino would have wanted to go there LDO.

I totally agree with you.  Doesn't my post say that?!?  Confused?

Ahh, misread!

Take back the LOLs!

 on: September 03, 2015, 07:48:09 PM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by Junior Senior
Saying that recs should put in more work if they want to keep up is absolute bullshit to be honest. You work at your job and if your job isn't poker why the f**k would you want to work at it? I put in enough f**king work every day earning the money which I then use to fund hobbies, one of which used to be poker.

To be told be professional poker players that I should work a bit harder at my hobby just pisses me right off!! Even if I put in a bit of work it still won't be as much as the pros so all I'm doing is slowing the rate at which they're getting better than me. It's far easier to just select a new hobby that doesn't require any hard work.

Pros and better recs used to take money off me slowly. I'd happily lose a few thousand a year because I enjoyed the game and there was always a punchers chance that I may bink a decent score one day. I've completely given up with online poker as I don't feel I have a chance any more. Whether it be HUDs or whatever doesn't matter, the fun goes out of poker if you think you haven't even got a hope of that lucky bink. I won't be putting in 8 hours a day to get better, I won't be buying HUDs and learning how to use them to try to narrow the gap. I'm just not going to spend any more money at online poker.

Hobbies are supposed to be fun and the way that poker has gone recently both live and online has ripped most of the fun out of poker for me. Even in live comps I now feel like my puncher's chance has been massively reduced because of the multi-entry/re-entry thing that's being debated elsewhere on the forum.

The thing is I'm not stupid, I'm actually quite intelligent. I understand the math behind re-entry and multi-entry, I understand that a HUD won't make much difference against me because you won't play enough hands against me to ever gain any more of an edge than you already have. I understand that my recent losing run might have nothing to do with any of the above, it might just be variance. None of this matters though. I've got to the point where the combination of variance, HUDs, better players, multi entry blah blah blah has just gotten too much.

I know that I can combat most of these problems by putting in more effort or more money but I just don't want to. It seemed far easier to just drastically reduce my £10k a year contribution to the pros weekly food bills and go on a few more holidays instead.

Good luck for the future.......

I lolled Matt, but that's a fantastic post.

Best post i have read for a while.

 on: September 03, 2015, 07:47:18 PM 
Started by Simon Galloway - Last post by arbboy
Very good summary.

 on: September 03, 2015, 07:45:46 PM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by EvilPie

You were a good customer for years, Matt, but they've lost you now.

This is what so many pros don't realise. People like me are their customers and they really need to keep their customers happy. There was a great post by Stu (Honeybadger) a few years ago talking about keeping the recs happy, let them see a few flops, don't call them fish, don't moan at them when they make a bad call and get there, take their money slowly etc. Smart guy that one! Shame he can't hold down a half decent bank account.......

So Matt (or anyone else for that matter), what could online pro's do to make you want to play online again ?

Obv any reg who has a chat war with a rec is a complete moron.

Lil Dave hits the nail on the head Ray and I'm afraid it's too late for me as unfortunately I already know too much.

I don't need to win I just need to feel I have a chance of winning but the information I have tells me that that's not possible.

I've been told about all these devices and tools that have perfected the game to the point where I mathematically can't win. Apparently even when I walk away with cold hard cash I've actually lost long in EV terms because the other guy is playing perfectly. This doesn't sound like a fun way of killing a few hours every evening.

Maybe it's Blonde that's ruined the game for me because that's where I get all of my poker information and that's where I've found out how bad I really am. PHA probably hasn't helped particularly as I no longer feel qualified to comment on there for fear of someone telling me that I'm wrong because ICM says I am. It's like opinions don't matter any more. Everything is down to facts and it doesn't matter what I think, Mr Smart Arse has ran it through such and such poker tool so what I think is wrong and that's that. I can have my opinion fixed if I purchase such and such poker tool and learn how to use it but again this doesn't sound like fun.

So unfortunately Ray there's nothing the pros can do to get me back as I'm too far gone. I'll have to stick to a few live tournaments and cash games every now and then to get my gambling fix now.

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