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« on: March 31, 2010, 03:18:31 AM »

In hand of Texas Holdem between KK and Q6s (neither of the kings are of the same suit as the Q6) will the Q6 have outs after the turn to an outright win more or less than 50%?

Split pots are disregarded for the benefit of the bet.
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2010, 07:33:30 AM »

when you have the kings it seems like your oppo is rarely drawing dead and you always have some sort of a sweat so it feels like more than 50%

but I'm not trusting my instinct on this and I'm plumping for less though I really have no idea
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2010, 07:46:51 AM »

about 35% of the time q6s will of made a pair by the turn.  then flush draw on flop is 10% so over 4 cards like 13%.  then staright draw 9% so like 12% of time. obv loads of those overlap and sometimes dead but i think probs more than 50% of the time Q6s will have 1 or more outs to win on the river v kk.  probably pretty easy to find out the answer with some computer software.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2010, 10:55:19 AM »

It's 50/50.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 04:36:21 PM »

It's 50/50.

This.

Great question though.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 05:28:55 PM »

about 35% of the time q6s will of made a pair by the turn.  then flush draw on flop is 10% so over 4 cards like 13%.  then staright draw 9% so like 12% of time. obv loads of those overlap and sometimes dead but i think probs more than 50% of the time Q6s will have 1 or more outs to win on the river v kk.  probably pretty easy to find out the answer with some computer software.

Link to a site where we can get the answer?
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 05:34:26 PM »

I'm not sure if there will be one.  It might be a case of getting someone to do some maths, but my head hurts thinking about it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2010, 11:35:56 AM »

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science of poker has the answer, but i cant be fucked to dig it out. its pretty close, but i back the bullshit fo win >50%

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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2010, 12:15:31 PM »

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21 outs, half the deck of 42.  Just needs to be open ended + paired and offsuit to the king.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2010, 12:16:41 PM »

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21 outs, half the deck of 42.  Just needs to be open ended + paired and offsuit to the king.

one of us misunderstood the OP
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2010, 12:23:33 PM »

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21 outs, half the deck of 42.  Just needs to be open ended + paired and offsuit to the king.

one of us misunderstood the OP

But he's shown his workings out, so although the answer may not be right, does he get marks for method ?
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2010, 12:30:04 PM »

only if the workings out aren't copied off the internet. that earns a detention
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2010, 12:31:30 PM »

It would also help if his workings out were correct but last time i checked 52-8 was 44 not 42.
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2010, 12:32:41 PM »

true dat. workings need to show that 2 cards were exposed during the hand
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2010, 12:54:01 PM »

I once had KK in tourny............... thats it really 
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