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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2005, 08:54:44 PM »


Subtle as a house brick, our John.

"Shoved it all-in".......
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2005, 09:02:48 PM »

Tikay
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Spelt Mr, Dr

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2005, 09:17:43 PM »

You travelling with Professor Shalson?
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2005, 12:03:36 AM »

Where were you for the last longer on bfair tonight Tikay ?

See you Tuesday.

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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2005, 12:23:33 AM »

this has what to do wit  kkk??

brag elsewhere re vegas trips please.


raise stronger,and be pepareed to release if ace flops.after all,ur not married to   kk  thank god !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2005, 12:31:43 AM »

this has what to do wit  kkk??

brag elsewhere re vegas trips please.


raise stronger,and be pepareed to release if ace flops.after all,ur not married to   kk  thank god !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What exactly is "wit kkk??" ?

And I always say "if you've got it, flaunt it" !
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2005, 12:32:39 AM »

Sorry Portfolio, but that's the way it works on blonde. We meander. It's that sorta site, see?
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2005, 03:01:17 AM »

caught en flagrante  !!

my bad.
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2005, 03:24:42 AM »

And all I can add is.....welcome to blonde, noflopshomer!

And I would not have played KK either. I just wait for Aces.

The first ever live hand I played was pocket aces in a small tournament at Walsall, and I lost to a KJ. He was one of those awful players who kept rebuying, shoving all his chips in every hand hoping to get lucky. Anyway, that's why I'm "No Flops".  Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2005, 12:18:38 PM »


I would always bet the flop if I am the original raiser or re-raisor whatever comes on the flop. If you go by this rule, you will make profit in the long term by being aggressive and the amount of pots you steal will compensate for when you get called. If you normally bet 50% of the pot when you hit, bet 50% when you do not hit, this way you cannot be read. if you always bet full pot however, you must bet full pot as good players will smell weakness. In this situation I would bet because you still have outs (2 kings), If he just called I would check on the turn hoping to get a free card on the river, if he bet again, I would pass. You've got away cheaply with KK in my opinion. Also, when you play KK v AX, it in not a bad play to see the flop, rather than go all-in, so you only give the Ax player 3 cards instead of 5 to hit his lucky Ace.  In Phil Helmuths book, playing like the pros, moves his chips in post flop with KK against a good player, who will actually fold AJ and lower. This seems a bit risky though.
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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2005, 01:41:08 PM »

i tell ya what!!
That is some bit of advice there Rob for playing kings, "so you only give the Ax player 3 cards instead of 5 to hit his lucky Ace".
Never, ever occurred to me that one, thanks a lot. Definite strategy change for me with kings.
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Would be very interesting to see some more of the better players opinions on this thread.
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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2005, 03:17:06 PM »

A friends of mine live by this rule with KK.

Never play an un-raised pot, but never re-raise (unless its multiway or v early)

The point being that you get to take the safe flop first, ok so occasionally u will fold to QQ JJ etc on Axx flop, but more often than not u save urself from an outdraw. And a player with AK AQ AJ is still going to bet a missed flop or if they caught a pair.
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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2005, 03:17:29 PM »

You may only give them 3 cards to hit but you also get less of their money into the pot, so I guess it depends on the situation as to which would be preferable.
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2005, 03:17:53 PM »

i tell ya what!!
That is some bit of advice there Rob for playing kings, "so you only give the Ax player 3 cards instead of 5 to hit his lucky Ace".
Never, ever occurred to me that one, thanks a lot. Definite strategy change for me with kings.
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Yes, but he could also fold his ace to your preflop agression.
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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2005, 04:00:49 PM »

folks very rarely fold AK to preflop aggression, and if someone with aq hits the q then you will get their chips.
I agree though it's horses for courses but how many times do you see an Ace on the turn or river against your queens or kings when you're allin?
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