Hachem's fold yesterday at the WPT

[AndrewT]

If the other guy has 85, then Hachem becomes a god-like genius of poker. Remember, he was one of the 'nobodies' when he won his bracelet. Then he made two final tables at the 2006 WSOP and people thought he was an ok player who was running hot. Then he won the Five Diamonds WPT event and many people still think 'WPTs are crapshoots - anyone can win'.

Single instances of hands like this get more respect than bracelets and prize money though. Remember Hellmuth pulling off that massive bluff in HSP - got him more respect from some people than all those bracelets.

If Hachem folds the best hand then he loses a chunk of chips in a $25k event with over $10m in the bank and some people on the internet call him a donkey. Big deal.

If the other guy does have 85 then Hachem becomes a god and gets massive respect.

I suspect with all the money in the bank respect means more to Hachem than gathering some chips in a WPT event.

[Royal Flush]

I dont think its the worst fold ever, oppo shows up with 58 here a lot

You laying it down then..? I don't think so!

No, i flat the 12k raise for deception and to open my opponents range because i think if i 4 bet it screams i have a str8 and only 85 will shove on me.

I dont see why he isnt pushing here with AA here, doesn't need 85 at all.

And if he is a serial LAG i dont see why isnt he isnt raising pre with A7/A4 suited.

Yeah because 2 pair is going to 5 bet shove the turn in a super deepstack 25k event......

I would put his range as 85 or AA and i would weight it quite strongly towards the 85.

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: AndrewT

I suspect with all the money in the bank respect means more to Hachem than gathering some chips in a WPT event.

Not sure how looking like a fool earns him respect.

Posted by: Royal Flush

Yeah because 2 pair is going to 5 bet shove the turn in a super deepstack 25k event......

I would put his range as 85 or AA and i would weight it quite strongly towards the 85.

Why would Hachem 3-bet only to fold to a 4-bet? Is Hachem's 3-bet an attempt to get worse to fold?? No! I've Got it! Hachem is 3-betting for information. That's what it is.

No more levelling on this thread please.

[Royal Flush]

Posted by: AndrewT

I suspect with all the money in the bank respect means more to Hachem than gathering some chips in a WPT event.

Not sure how looking like a fool earns him respect.

Posted by: Royal Flush

Yeah because 2 pair is going to 5 bet shove the turn in a super deepstack 25k event......

I would put his range as 85 or AA and i would weight it quite strongly towards the 85.

Why would Hachem 3-bet only to fold to a 4-bet? Is Hachem's 3-bet an attempt to get worse to fold?? No! I've Got it! Hachem is 3-betting for information. That's what it is.

No more levelling on this thread please.

I thought he 4 bet, cant be bothered to read through the orig post again.

I don't know why he 4 bet, as i already stated i wouldn't 4 bet myself because it telegraph's my hand.

[bolt pp]

John McCririck made the worst fold ever

On a board of  in a comp at the Vic he folded to a bet on the end from Moneymaker

In 2005 I recollect

To be fair to McCririk it was an all in bet