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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2008, 11:53:58 PM »
Terrible fold, lets move on!
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2008, 12:10:19 AM »
Agreed. When I read about this a little bit of sick appeared in my mouth.
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2008, 12:26:18 AM »
I dont think its the worst fold ever, oppo shows up with 58 here a lot
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2008, 12:32:02 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on April 22, 2008, 12:26:18 AM
I dont think its the worst fold ever, oppo shows up with 58 here a lot

You laying it down then..? I don't think so!
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2008, 12:32:28 AM »
I agree it's not the worst fold ever. If Hachem had 5-8 it would be worse.
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2008, 01:08:39 AM »
John McCririck made the worst fold ever

On a board of  in a comp at the Vic he folded to a bet on the end from Moneymaker

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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2008, 01:23:53 AM »
beth shak did the same in a wpt recently
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2008, 01:56:33 AM »
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John McCririck made the worst fold ever

Hmmm not sure about that. John McCririck is just a slobbish mess of a racing pundit and clearly a clueless human being. On the other hand Aussie! Aussie! Joe Hacham is the one time World Champion and a full-time professional poker player. Hacham shouldn't find any consolation in the fact that the fat bloke from Racing is worse.
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2008, 02:22:18 AM »
Quote from: KingPoker on April 22, 2008, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on April 22, 2008, 12:26:18 AM
I dont think its the worst fold ever, oppo shows up with 58 here a lot

You laying it down then..? I don't think so!

No, i flat the 12k raise for deception and to open my opponents range because i think if i 4 bet it screams i have a str8 and only 85 will shove on me.
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2008, 03:18:25 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on April 22, 2008, 02:22:18 AM
Quote from: KingPoker on April 22, 2008, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on April 22, 2008, 12:26:18 AM
I dont think its the worst fold ever, oppo shows up with 58 here a lot

You laying it down then..? I don't think so!

No, i flat the 12k raise for deception and to open my opponents range because i think if i 4 bet it screams i have a str8 and only 85 will shove on me.




WTF? lol! You been playing w too many nits.

also, he blatantly did this for publicity and i woudnt read to much into it. Also possibly so he gets more ppl trying to bluff his nut-peddling ass.......
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2008, 03:56:17 AM »
am the only one who thinks this is a good fold? the structure of the vent allows him to get back in it and the only 3 hands he could be 5 bet shoved into with are AAA, 57 or the same 35. If the guy did have 58 then hes drawing to a miracle chop

afraid to say i would play it like flushy much slower to disguise the hand and ust call the river if it pairs. nobody apart from those at the table knows what the guys range is, he may have raised the last 34 pots for all we know.
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2008, 05:15:13 AM »
Quote from: AlexMartin on April 22, 2008, 03:18:25 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on April 22, 2008, 02:22:18 AM
Quote from: KingPoker on April 22, 2008, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on April 22, 2008, 12:26:18 AM
I dont think its the worst fold ever, oppo shows up with 58 here a lot

You laying it down then..? I don't think so!

No, i flat the 12k raise for deception and to open my opponents range because i think if i 4 bet it screams i have a str8 and only 85 will shove on me.




WTF? lol! You been playing w too many nits.

also, he blatantly did this for publicity and i woudnt read to much into it. Also possibly so he gets more ppl trying to bluff his nut-peddling ass.......

It's a 25k event, people don't 5 bet shove without the nuts early doors!
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2008, 08:45:04 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on April 22, 2008, 02:22:18 AM
Quote from: KingPoker on April 22, 2008, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on April 22, 2008, 12:26:18 AM
I dont think its the worst fold ever, oppo shows up with 58 here a lot

You laying it down then..? I don't think so!

No, i flat the 12k raise for deception and to open my opponents range because i think if i 4 bet it screams i have a str8 and only 85 will shove on me.



I dont see why he isnt pushing here with AA here, doesn't need 85 at all.

And if he is a serial LAG i dont see why isnt he isnt raising pre with A7/A4 suited.
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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2008, 11:00:17 AM »
1. Hacham calls an EP raise with 3-5

2. Hacham luck-boxes the 2nd nuts on the turn

3. Hacham has most of his money in the pot

4. Hacham puts his oppo and the EP raiser on specifically 5-8 and not the much more probable AA

5. Hacham shows the laydown to everyone??

6. Hacham has the best hand.

Good play by Hacham? Yes. And Rolf Harris is a fecking painting genius.
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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2008, 11:04:14 AM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on April 22, 2008, 11:00:17 AM
1. Hacham calls an EP raise with 3-5

2. Hacham luck-boxes the 2nd nuts on the turn

3. Hacham has most of his money in the pot

4. Hacham puts his oppo and the EP raiser on specifically 5-8 and not the much more probable AA

5. Hacham shows the laydown to everyone??

6. Hacham has the best hand.

Good play by Hacham? Yes. And Rolf Harris is a fecking painting genius.

Rolf Harris is a brilliant artist.  However, I don't think that he'd fold this hand.
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