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« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2010, 03:08:21 PM »

I don't know the player but live players are usually massive nits so I'm not really too thrilled about getting it in here. Your standard live nit isn't betting a T or a flush draw here so we're only beating QJ and J9, but it doesn't really seem to make any sense for her to limp those hands given that there just hasn't been any limping going on.

I guess I could just be results oriented through reading the whole thread but when I first looked at it, really did seem like aces.

The line of 'lol we have top pair with 14BBs we're all in' is a bit short sighted imo. Yes against a wide (or even tight-ish) limping range we can get this in and be happy about it but we're talking about a very tight limping range here that for all we know could be AA only given that this is the players first open limp in 90 minutes. The fact that she reaches for chips too....tight live players just don't bluff in this spot so I don't think its nearly as clear cut as a lot of people are saying.

Live players are massive nits!? They are just a massive mad mix of bad nutters.

Mind you, anyone is a nit compared to you. Think it was the first time I'd played at DTD and had someone play more hands than me.
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« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2010, 05:59:01 PM »

Shared a table with Edna last night, limped into about 10 pots, didn't have Aces once.
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« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2010, 07:52:20 PM »

I don't know the player but live players are usually massive nits so I'm not really too thrilled about getting it in here. Your standard live nit isn't betting a T or a flush draw here so we're only beating QJ and J9, but it doesn't really seem to make any sense for her to limp those hands given that there just hasn't been any limping going on.

I guess I could just be results oriented through reading the whole thread but when I first looked at it, really did seem like aces.

The line of 'lol we have top pair with 14BBs we're all in' is a bit short sighted imo. Yes against a wide (or even tight-ish) limping range we can get this in and be happy about it but we're talking about a very tight limping range here that for all we know could be AA only given that this is the players first open limp in 90 minutes. The fact that she reaches for chips too....tight live players just don't bluff in this spot so I don't think its nearly as clear cut as a lot of people are saying.

Why is villain being tagged as a massive nit? OP tags her as experienced/knowledgeable. A player who is experienced, knowledgeable, and prone to unconventional play doesn't have a limping range of just AA here. She can easily have eg JQs that she's played unconventionally or to mix it up. Or she could decide to just limp and snap take it down on any flop, hence the reach. Perhaps the old lady enjoys seeing the suspicious regs bricking it when she limps. I don't think it's short sighted to want the money in when the flop comes down cos that's where our stack kinda makes us to decide. I mean how many of the 14bb's are we putting in before we pull out?
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« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2010, 08:35:05 PM »

Shove pre Cheesy
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« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2010, 08:40:37 PM »

Shove pre Cheesy

That's a pretty good point by our esteemed bracelet holder.

Looks like a decent spot to pick up some easy free chips.
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« Reply #50 on: July 09, 2010, 10:21:57 PM »


Mind you, anyone is a nit compared to you. Think it was the first time I'd played at DTD and had someone play more hands than me.

I actually had a few hands!

My shove to bust was awful though, he was never folding TPTK in a million years which is what he almost certainly has in that spot like....always.
What did you have anyway? I was planning on 4betting you and kinda got stumped when the guy cold called your 3bet.

Just to clarify when I say live players are nits, they tend to be when the blinds get big and stacks get as short, in bubble and final table situations etc. as they are here. Especially some of the older players.
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