blonde poker forum
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
July 27, 2025, 10:27:24 PM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
2262525 Posts in 66609 Topics by 16991 Members
Latest Member: nolankerwin
* Home Help Arcade Search Calendar Guidelines Login Register
+  blonde poker forum
|-+  Poker Forums
| |-+  Poker Hand Analysis
| | |-+  Set on flop v flush draw
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Set on flop v flush draw  (Read 1667 times)
CelticGeezeer
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 909


Viva la Quinta Brigada


View Profile WWW
« on: March 11, 2006, 09:56:27 PM »

I have gone out of three trnys today in the same situation.

I have hit a set on the flop, with two suited cards also on the flop. On each occasion I have gone all in to prevent the four flush hands calling.

All three times they called and hit their flush.

Am I making the wrong move or just unlucky.
Logged

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." - Dom Helder Camara
TightEnd
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: I am a geek!!



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2006, 09:59:48 PM »

It's just a classic situation isn't it

you absolutely have to make them pay to hit their draw. You don't say if they had nut draws or not, but anyways you'll win your fair share of these over time and of course many a time the flush draw SHOULD fold if non-nut

Hard luck, keep at it!
Logged

My eyes are open wide
By the way,I made it through the day
I watch the world outside
By the way, I'm leaving out today
CelticGeezeer
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 909


Viva la Quinta Brigada


View Profile WWW
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2006, 10:04:09 PM »

Thanks for that i was beginning to doubt the move thumbs up
Logged

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." - Dom Helder Camara
WellChief
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 571



View Profile
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2006, 12:27:33 AM »

If you're asking if you should go all in every time you hit a set and there's a possible draw on the board then no you should not.  People worry a lot about draws.  Don't overbet the pot, there's no need, if you bet 3/4 pot you're forcing them into making a mistake by calling and that's all you want.
Logged
TightEnd
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: I am a geek!!



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2006, 12:29:18 AM »

If you're asking if you should go all in every time you hit a set and there's a possible draw on the board then no you should not.  People worry a lot about draws.  Don't overbet the pot, there's no need, if you bet 3/4 pot you're forcing them into making a mistake by calling and that's all you want.

exactly.....and an overbet can look weak...almost encouraging to them to call....
Logged

My eyes are open wide
By the way,I made it through the day
I watch the world outside
By the way, I'm leaving out today
clayftknight
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 173



View Profile
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2006, 06:58:05 AM »

If your priority is to find a way of playing the hand to reduce your chance of getting knocked out then yes, your move is wrong.
If this is the case then the hard bet should be on the turn not the flop (assuming the turn isn't the 3rd of that suit)
The guy on a draw, with only one card to come, will not call you, on the flop they often do and even though you say to yourself afterwards that he shouldn't have called, it doesn't ease the pain much.

So, if priority is staying in, push on the turn not the flop, however, you may be giving up some equity because of course long term you want the flush draw calling without odds....the choice is yours, just know why you made the given play and take the rough with the smooth.
Logged
temp0r
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 683



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2006, 01:37:49 PM »

a set is almost a 70% fave against a flush draw. against tight players or in the middle stages of a tournament pushing on the flop is fine. but as clayftknight says pushing on the turn is much better for survival purposes so in the later stages unless you're a big stack you should bet and either force them over the top when they're behind or build the pot abit for you to take it with a push on the turn when they miss.
however putting your opponent on a flush draw is probably the most common miss-read i see so be careful.
Logged
Royal Flush
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 22690


Booooccccceeeeeee


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2006, 02:19:32 AM »

Why the hell do you want to push a flush draw out when you have a set!!

Get the fools in the pot.
Logged

[19:44:40] Oracle: WE'RE ALL GOING ON A SPANISH HOLIDAY! TRIGGS STABLES SHIT!
Nem
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 9494



View Profile
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2006, 02:34:58 AM »

Why the hell do you want to push a flush draw out when you have a set!!

Get the fools in the pot.

 
Logged
NoflopsHomer
Malcontent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 20204


Enchantment? Enchantment!


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2006, 03:55:59 AM »

Why the hell do you want to push a flush draw out when you have a set!!

Get the fools in the pot.

 

  with Flushy's rather blunt statement. Grin
Logged

Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.176 seconds with 20 queries.