Delteted Discussion, right "open" forum

[AdamM]

because once you loose you're voice, all opinions must go, not just the unpalatable ones. hopefuly this isn't going to spiral into a freedom of speech thread. By becoming abusive the guy got banned. once banned he is silenced (on this board only) and all his posts are removed. the thread wouldn't make much sense without his posts so the lot may as well go. lets just move on

[Ironside]

the guy isnt banned but the thread was closed

[ifm]

A couple of points:-
Firstly i have always been in favour of a modded forum as we don't want this place to go the way others have. I actually nominated ironside for the job in other threads 
Secondly i didn't see a personally abusive post from the fella but even so he had a valid point that was removed.
By all means kick the abusers into touch but freedom of speech is essential,
Ian

[AdamM]

if an abusive poster raises valid point in amongst abuse I believe censoring and cherry picking that persons views is FAR worse than removing the lot.

Freedom of speech is not a right, it's a privilage. Very few posts have been removed since this forum started and if one is, it's not done by concensus, it's done by poeple at the top who, long ago should have earned our trust. We have no reason to question the integrity of the people moderating this forum and such decisions that are made should be, and I'm sure are final.

[ifm]

He was not abusive until his last post apparently but sod it point made.
Freedom of speech is not a right? hmmm have i been transported to North Korea?
I'll agree to disagree, love you xxx
Ian

[Syrflop]

?there is no direct link from here to william hills?

there is a link between poker 425 and here that ends in 3 days time

this forum discusses all the poker sites from party to stars to laddies to prima

we have reps here from bluesquare betfair and other major UK bookies

now on williiamhills.com you will find where it says free phone for support and you will also see a click here for live help

neither lead to this forum as this forum is part of blondepoker which is el blondies site and he has no link to crypto

infact he is sponsored by the UPL

now you have printed a pm from me so i will now delete the post as PM are private messages

AS I SAID 3 times. the link is FROM, FROM FROM, FROM William Hill Directly to here. What about FROM is confusing to you?  ****FROM**** William Hill here, GOT IT YET?

NO ONE EVER SAID from HERE to William Hill.

I sure hope you use that intelligence to play at cash tables.

How soon will you delete this too?

Why are you so afraid of your "private message" from being shown?  Ah, your ignorance will be known. hahahahahahahahahahaaaa  you guys are too funny.

[Syrflop]

if an abusive poster raises valid point in amongst abuse I believe censoring and cherry picking that persons views is FAR worse than removing the lot.

Freedom of speech is not a right, it's a privilage. Very few posts have been removed since this forum started and if one is, it's not done by concensus, it's done by poeple at the top who, long ago should have earned our trust. We have no reason to question the integrity of the people moderating this forum and such decisions that are made should be, and I'm sure are final.

"Freedom of speech is not a right, it's a privilage." WHAT WHAT WHAT???

Just what country are you from? It is a BASIC HUMAN RIGHTon this planet. What is the color of the sky in your world?

[Bongo]

Free speech is not a right on a privately owned forum. Heck we don't even have free speech in this country and I doubt you do in America.

[Bongo]

Why are you so afraid of your "private message" from being shown?

I don't want to get too complex and confuse you but the clue to that one might be in the name...

[Colchester Kev]

My thoughts on the subject.....

Syrflop may indeed have had a genuine grievance, however the way his original post came across was very aggressive and defamatory. Now that is not a crime in itself, but when he was offered help via personal messeges and emails, he re-published them on the forum and was indeed abusive towards the members of this forum.

As subsequent posts have inferred that perhaps this person is "in the industry" maybe , just maybe, he has an ulterior motive.

As said by many many people that use this forum... This is a fun, friendly, interesting and downright entertaining place to hang out while either playing on line , or following friends and/or poker pro's in live tournament updates, and i for one will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way (as i know will many others)

 The membership is growing rapidly, and im almost certain that the growing numbers are attracted by the very attributes I mentioned above ... We as "regulars" and frequent contributors to this forum should be proud of what we have helped create, and if by keeping it that way we upset one or two "bad apples" then i certainly wont lose any sleep over that.

Just my thoughts for what they are worth.

Kev.

[Syrflop]

Mr Stapleton/Syrflop

I have already responded to your question by PM which you were rude enough to copy to the forum. I will once again give you the information to help you out.

The freephone number to contact William Hill customer servicefrom the US is 00180035513551, this is toll free.
The email addy for William Hill custmer service is customerservice@williamhill.co.uk

The thing I find very strange is that your main complaint appears to be that we have no contact facility available yet you registered an email with us on July 22nd on the email service above. This was answered by the CS operative.

What I cannot understand is this. If you are unhappy with the reply or would like to make another point why have you not contacted the CS dept again, you have chosen the best online Poker forum to act in a thoroughly rude and aggresive manner. If you did not want to contact the CS line again, I sent you a PM on Saturday afternoon with all the info you complained wasnt available, you could easily have PM me if you had any more questions.

The good news is that we will be adding our freerolls to the site again next week, so I do hope you can enjoy these as I underdstand they are very important to you.

Now my final suggestion is this, why not try to make your points and ask your questions in a polite and proper manner? This is a very friendly and helpful forum, indeed Ironside has given you the information you requested and all you have done is abuse him.

Enjoy your poker and by the way , I traced your user name and CS complaint to find your identity....tell me, do you have a job in the industry?

Pretty funny how you claim to have NO CONNECTION to William Hill but are looking up player names and registrations, and then defending the schedules for William Hill.

and AGAIN, that NUMBER is NOT TOLL FREE. (there are too many number after the "800" which means IT DOES'NT WORK   So it Does NOT Work in the United States and you are LYING again when you re-post the same lie over and over. There is NO Customer support to speak of, NO TELEPHONE NUMBER that works, and NO EMAIL that is faster than 3 days.

I have proven my point, and you delete it to hide it.

[Bongo]

I agree with Kev, very eloquently put

[Bongo]

Pretty funny how you claim to have NO CONNECTION to William Hill but are looking up player names and registrations, and then defending the schedules for William Hill.

Bobby1 has never said that he has no connection to William Hill 

[ifm]

You misunderstand Syrflop, the site/forum have no connection to william hills, the poster of that message is a manager of william hills and subsequently has a connection.
Wasn't this originally about canceling freerolls without notice/advertising?
Ian

BTW others have reprinted PERSONAL (not private) messages in the past but i won't mention names

[Syrflop]

the thread got deleted when you got abusive towards the members of BLONDEPOKER.com

we have nothing to do with williamhills.yet you insulted us

if you want williamhills live help ring there freephone number or click on live chat on
http://www.williamhillpoker.com/index.php

now if you are unhappy that william hills has no support for users in the usa i suggest you talk to

george bush as its illegal to play poker in most parts of the usa

*****we have nothing to do with williamhills.yet you insulted us*****

What is it about that phrase that makes me think there is supposed to be NO connection to William Hill?

The deleted thread from Bobby said the same thing.

Now IS THERE a direct connection where SHE can find my registration?  or is there a fraud going on where she hacked into William Hill to get my regstration?