Piano Found at top of Ben Nevis ( 3 days old )

[tikay]

"we need the wood for something else"......

You are not serious, are you Flushy? It's OK to destroy a rainforest because we need the wood?

It's nature at work.

Well, I don't think we would ever agree on that. I know the point you are making, but I would really struggle to accept it, ever.

By trying to stop people destroying the rainforrests you are interfering

Hard to formulate a sensible argument to counter such a mindset as THAT!

So we let everyone do whatever they want to Plant Earth, otherwise we are interfering with Nature?

[Ginger]

I hope to god he is joking.

[madasahatstand]

i did post a longer version of the following post but it got lost. in fact, i posted 2 as i forgot about the trees and it also dissapeared. the first reply was better


her are my views

squirrel debate
theres nothing wrong with mixed race squirrels as there is nothing wrong with mixed race humans. i really dont think humans have the right to kill the grey at the expense of the red even if we did introduce them. if the squirrels didnt want to breed with each other, they wouldnt and ive never heard of quirrel rape:)
Also, the world would not be the same without the evolutionary processes that have got us here and may or may not keep us here. the evolution of squirrels is happening and they dont seem to bothered.


human keeper of the earth
some humans cant even look after themselves and i dont believe its a 'god' given right for us to assume that power. we should not be messing with nature at all.
mother nature is the true force of this planet and of all existance. she is a thread running through everything we know and dont know. 'god' is a human invention and varies widely from religion to religion. mother nature is a constant we can rely on.


trees
if i was the land owner, id smear the bark of the tree with some organic nasty tasting stuff or build some contraption to save the trees however, this is where i go back to evolution. im sure the landowners trees, or their species would adapt over the centuries and protect themselves against nasty bark eaters. is this not the way nature works? species evolve according to their environments and survival needs. i bet there are lots of extinct species who have not made the mark and there will be plenty to come maybe even including human kind? who knows where a million years will take the planet?

[tikay]

I hope to god he is joking.

I am sure he is just trying to wind peeps up Jane.

[madasahatstand]

humans should concentrate on not interfering but setting laws about deliberate destruction of the habitat, for example the rain forrest

[tikay]

I know Red. No worries 

Ehhh,  I am not sure how it is brewed. I am more of a drinker  .

  I went to a brewery(sp?) when I was about 20.  To be honest, I wanted to be at the bike race along the road, but to keep the peace with my ex-girlfriends family, I opted for the Beer factory tour.  I had a long talk with one of the guys working there about different types of beers. He said that Becks was a beer that was completely animal friendly.  There was a common Scottish beer that wasn't.  I have read on a few sites that I sometimes visit that most foods and drinks are now going down the animal friendly route and doing away with animal fats/ gelatin, etc.  Vegetable fats and natural herbs, etc are being used in there place.

This is why I just adore Sark's Posts.

Somehow, in the middle of this awesome thread, in deadly earnest, he slips in a mention of a bike race.....

Sark, My Hero.

[tikay]

humans should concentrate on not interfering but setting laws about deliberate destruction of the habitat, for example the rain forrest

And there you have it. Contrast Mad's view with Fliushy's. Two sane, intelligent people, with views as far apart as it's possible to get.

Though I'm quite sure Flushy is not being serious.

[ifm]

Firstly the grey squirrel KILL the red ones, they don't breed with them it's genocide.
Secondly i think Flushy is winding you up Tikay.

[Royal Flush]

I am, i am making a point, Tikay says we shouldnt interfer, but up to what point?

[thetank]

How will the cull work?

Will the King offer a shiny ha'penny for every squirrel carcass?

Instead of killing them, can we just take all the grey squirrel's nuts?

[brad.strider]

How will the cull work?

Will the King offer a shiny ha'penny for every squirrel carcass?

Instead of killing them, can we just take all the grey squirrel's nuts?

we could paint all the red ones grey, then the evil grey ones wouldnt know who to kill

[Sark79]

I just saw three grey squirrels at my local Forrest while out a run.  They didn't want to be interviewed about this topic sadly and ran up a tree.

The guy that is the game keeper at the forest is a nice old guy.  I asked him about this topic just now. He said what a few other people in this thread have said  " it is survival of the fittest ". The greys apparently are immune to the deadly squirrel pox virus, but the reds aren't. 

[Tonji]

Sark your a penguin chasing squirrels in the forest for an interview concerning a debate on Evolution & Conservation.  Sark I love how your mind works.

[Poppet7]

I haven't really seen much of the news over the last few days or read any papers.  I was checking through ceefax earlier catching up on what I had missed. 

There were two stories that caught my eye. One was the sad news that they are culling much of the Grey Squirrel population across various parts of the UK. This is to prevent the red Squirrel numbers decreasing further over the coming years.  I am in two minds about this. Part of me feels it is the only solution, the other part feels saddened by the news.

Ok, the story that caught my eye the most was the finding of a piano up Scotland's highest mountain Ben Nevis. It is thought to have been there for 35 years and was taken to the top by a man who had it strapped to his back as part of a fund raising effort. He played Scotland the Brave once at the summit.

Stories like this are refreshing when most of what gets reported on is war, famine and scandal.  It is good to hear a story that has no negativity connected to it for a change.

I think I've helped with the squirrel thing...

.. One ran under my car today and when I looked in my mirror, it was dead... I was so upset I nearly cried!

[Sark79]

You shouldn't have felt guilty Poppet.  It wasn't your fault.  I almost hit a Rabbit once while on a cycling holiday, I avoided it at the last minute and hit a picnic table instead. The old guy wasn't impressed.

I read a few years ago about tunnels being made under various roads for Otters. This is to prevent them getting hit by cars. I thought this was a great idea. There is one of these on a road in Hampshire. It is not only Otters that use it, but other animals such as badgers.  Sadly they can't put these tunnels everywhere because all the roads would collapse into all the underpasses.