Have you ever folded KK preflop in a comp before????

[wsopin07]

I would like to know what people think about this.

The hand I went out on at the WPT 25K at the Bellagio was KK vs AA. I have always said I would not fold KK preflop!
If there ever was a time I think this was it!

1 Hour to go in day 1 and I had 85K ( above average) There was a limp of 300 utg, a raise to 600 early position, a reraise to 3,500 from only guy on table who had me coverd ( he also had a great table image) , came to me in the cutoff and I made it 13,500, folded back to guy that has me covered (that raised to 3500) who then moves all in. This was the toughest decision I have ever had to make

And he had  vs my 

[winkie]

I've folded KK preflop only once. I think it was the main event of a Luton festival a year or so ago.

I think it was the second or third level and we're about even in chips. It was a pretty similar situation that you described - raise, re-raise, re-re-raise.

The re-re-raise was from the table rock.

Look down at a K, squeeze the next card. King.

Thought about it for a long time, but passed.

Both the orignal raiser and re-raiser call.

Raiser = AK
Re-rasiser = QQ
Re-re-raiser = AA

AA takes the pot on a raggy board.

[BigTomatoes]

 never say never 
 
 but it would take extraordinary circumstances for me to fold KK pre flop

 such as raise, re raise, re re raise from tight tight players

 i have never done it before the biggest hand ive folded is QQ and i regretted it afterwards because the guy could have had AK or JJ in my view

 but the way i see it

 is
 
 i am a poker player , i love playing poker ,  when i look down at my 2 hole cards and see 2 Kings
 
 my heart beats faster and the blood starts flowing, i play to win whether its a sit n go , a tourney or whatever, KK is a monster hand pre flop. they dont come along often and the chances of someone else having AA when they do come along is massive so in my eyes it is defeating the purpose of playing poker if you fold KK before the flop, thats not to say i would never do it, but it would take extreme circumstances for me to even think about it.

[Highstack]

I haven’t. However, I have never played such a big deep-stacked tournament as the one you describe and with opponents of that calibre.

With the way the betting pattern goes, I find it difficult to believe that he could have anything other than AA but whether I would have found the courage to pass, I can't say.

[Highstack]

KK is a monster hand pre flop. they dont come along often and the chances of someone else having AA when they do come along is massive

I haven't folded them eithe, but the chances are not that massive. Assuming a full 10 handed table, the chances of an opponent holding AA when you hold KK are only 21.7/1.

[Highstack]

That said I am of course still not passing as I have already said above. Nearly a 22-1 chance is enough for me to get em in, but when the players are good, betting patterns are everything.

[GlasgowBandit]

I'm not goo enough to lay that down!

[NoflopsHomer]

Taken (and paraphrased) from Sklansky's Tournament Poker for Advanced Players.

1st hour of the main event of the WSOP. The blinds are 25/50. UTG raises it to 300, 2nd player calls, two more call behind him. You make it 2,000 to go with KK, UTG folds, the 2nd player moves all-in, the other callers fold. Do you call?

[totalise]

people are saying it would take a lot of convincing to fold KK preflop.. I reckon the example Brian gave is quite persuasive!

the only problem Brian has is that whilst I dont know his exact playing style, I expect that he doesn't always need a monster to make the raise to 13,500 (maybe I am wrong about this).. as a result, the guy jamming into him doesn't exactly need AA to jam back at him.. but thats just supposition, and is just guess work on Brians style

I know that if it was me in brians spot, I would fold KK nearly all the time there.. but because its brian in brians spot, maybe folding KK is a mistake (because of his playing style)

I might have his style completely wrong though, all I know of it is from WSOP and that Pacific poker thingy...

[The Rivercard]

I'm not goo enough to lay that down!

Niether am I ....I wish I was but I'm not

[NoflopsHomer]

I don't think I'm either but I think it is possible with VERY deep stacks and a lot of preflop action.

[bobby1]

I havent but I wish I had.

[thetank]

Brian, I've seen you lay down KK in a £5 tournament before.

It was in Cincinnatis, 3 handed!

It was to AQ, but there was a rabbit hunt and your opponent woulda pinged the Ace.

[Karabiner]

A couple of times I have been sure that my KK was up against AA, but I wasn't good enough to pass.

[Junior Senior]

I havent but I wish I had.

lol
exactly! i am a member of this club i'm affraid - (twice) i have had that feeling and they say you should learn from your mistakes but obviously i hadn't :-(

Both times,i KNEW my Oppo had AA but used the excuse that i am not good enough to lay it down. - Sometimes you JUST KNOW.