Is it fair to do this?

[Scottish Dave]

dave

sark does like to start a good debate. this one got me fired up this morning or maybe thats athe caffine kicking in !!


mad

no, dont be daft, i wasnt having a go or anything, at you or anyone, just think Sarky pants here, has a hidden story to his well fired debates.

I have nothing but love and respect for all of you's xx 

[madasahatstand]

dave

sark does like to start a good debate. this one got me fired up this morning or maybe thats athe caffine kicking in !!


mad

no, dont be daft, i wasnt having a go or anything, at you or anyone, just think Sarky pants here, has a hidden story to his well fired debates.

I have nothing but love and respect for all of you's xx 

no didnt think you were having a go. are you on the vino this morning?

[Sark79]

  What hidden story is that Dave?       


Do you play as ScotDave82  on VC? 

[madasahatstand]

the hidden story is that you only have 1 pair of (illegal) union jack boxers and that you never take them off..................lmao

[Sark79]

      Don't you think the UJ is a great looking flag?   It is my favorite world flag by a mile 

[madasahatstand]

hi sark

no I'm afraid its my least favourite and its a shame its been associated with right wing extremism. maybe thats why i dont like it? i like my own national flag better

[Sark79]

The St. Andrew's cross is good, I agree.  When I used to be into cycling racing, I always had a Scottish flag on my seat post. It was always a reminder of my desire to impress my nation. Although I never got to that level due to my general crapness at cycling  . 

But now in poker, my avatar is a Union Jack.  Although on VC, I have switched to a European flag to prevent people trying to chat to me when playing.  I keep a small European phrase book by my laptop, when I win a pot or get outfished - I type something into the chat box in a European language.  That keeps them guessing where I am from. 

Je Voudrais deux billets = I would like two tickets 

If I type a random insane phrase every so often, my opponents think to themselves  " this guy is a complete nutter ".  They chat amongst themselves and take their focus off the game.  I asked how I made an international call from Germany last night.  Tonight's game will focus on the culinary delights of Spain.

[Scottish Dave]

dave

sark does like to start a good debate. this one got me fired up this morning or maybe thats athe caffine kicking in !!


mad

no, dont be daft, i wasnt having a go or anything, at you or anyone, just think Sarky pants here, has a hidden story to his well fired debates.

I have nothing but love and respect for all of you's xx 

no didnt think you were having a go. are you on the vino this morning?

no, just the couch kid

[Scottish Dave]

The St. Andrew's cross is good, I agree.  When I used to be into cycling racing, I always had a Scottish flag on my seat post. It was always a reminder of my desire to impress my nation. Although I never got to that level due to my general crapness at cycling  . 

But now in poker, my avatar is a Union Jack.  Although on VC, I have switched to a European flag to prevent people trying to chat to me when playing.  I keep a small European phrase book by my laptop, when I win a pot or get outfished - I type something into the chat box in a European language.  That keeps them guessing where I am from. 

Je Voudrais deux billets = I would like two tickets 

If I type a random insane phrase every so often, my opponents think to themselves  " this guy is a complete nutter ".  They chat amongst themselves and take their focus off the game.  I asked how I made an international call from Germany last night.  Tonight's game will focus on the culinary delights of Spain.

lol see what i mean lol

Sarky pants, no ive never played VC what network is it?

i play Crypto (betfair ) to be precise, occasional Blonde for the Blonde tourneys and occasionally Blue square for the Grosvner Sats.

[Sark79]

I play betfair as well.  It is a nice site

[Scottish Dave]

I play betfair as well.  It is a nice site

What do you play on betfair?

i play MTT's mainly usually £10-£50 buy ins, the GTD tourney's mostly.

[Sark79]

Just ring games.  I have been planning on starting to do a few HU games on their soon.  It is the only site where I get rakeback.  I play at 4 sites,  VC, BLONDE, PokerStars and Befair . 

[thetank]

Perhaps the campaign is unsympthetically worded.

"Recycle a goat"

Recycle, to me has connotations of rubbish, tin cans and old newspapers etc. ie, things we throw away and discard.
Obviously these images in juxtawuxta with animals, there is cause for concern.

Perhaps the word recycle means this to the animal lobbyists of this world too. If the campaign had used different language, maybe theyd have been more keen to give 50p?

I think the goat will be just fine.

[Lee]

Are you saying that kids in Africa are not starving but have fundraising potential?

Not at all, i felt i made it quite clear that showing starving kids on the tv hits home far better than showing the political reasons (which is the real reason). In other words, if all fundraising was labelled "corrupt government appeal" instead of "starving kids", then the amounts raised would be far less. Seeing a starving kid is far more powerful and emotive than politically explaining how corrupt these governments are and then subsequently trying to get people to donate.

The 5 million people with HIV have so much money spent on them. thats the biggest bunch of bull Ive heard this side of Christmas. the problem the Africans have (apart from prevention) is that the big pharmaceutical companies have a monopoly on HIV drugs which cost an absolute fortune. Africans are dying needlessly because we have the drugs but they don't have the money to buy them. i may be wrong but i think you are saying this is OK because they would starve anyway? well thats how it reads to me. if this is what you mean, I'm really dissappointed. its an absolute disgrace and I'm ashamed at times to live in a western 'civilised' society. say we took socialist principles and shared all the material riches in the world with Africa and they shared their natural resources with us. we would not have these huge problems on the planet. but people are so greedy and they want to keep what they have as it gives them power and that power buys them more choices in life.

I don't see anything you have said which doesn't come under the "corrupt government" label, which is my main point here. My point on the AIDS fact was that by curing AIDS in Africa, it will only bring up a far worse problem, in that millions more people will be starving and the endless pursuit to feed people in Africa will continue and worsen. Band Aid started some 20/30 years ago and in my eyes has done very little to eradicate the problem. This is not to disrespect the people who have given generously and the people who work tirelessly trying to forge a better life for those less fortunate than them. The fact remains, i am still seeing the same kids starving and the same country in trouble - what has actually improved over the past 20/30 years? It's important to look at the issue as a whole, true there will be running water in places where there wasn't before and some people will live longer, more quality lives, however on the whole the situation is still dire and seems almost impossible to ever solve, unless we attack the real problem - the corrupt governments.

looks like I'm going to have a bad start to my day   good debate though but it rings home to me that changing the planet is a near to impossible task, even when you look at the different opinions on here for starters. scary!!

The world is littered with charities, many of whom do work far beyond what most of us would consider charitable. I would like to see the number of charities streamlined and rather than have 100 charities vying for my £10 per month, pool the skills of the very best into a few key charities who will actually work as a team to overcome the real problems. There are some fantastic charities out there and some amazing people, i would like to see them come together and work collectively, rather than compete with each other for the same £1.

Success stories are great to see, yet they are (in the bigger picture) very sparce. Aid from countries increases each year, charities raise more than ever before and yet i still see the same starving malnourished kids on tv. Its time to cure the disease, not keep dressing up and treating the wounds.

Much the same as "wiping out 3rd world debt", great idea that, then the corrupt governments can once again run up huge arrears and in 50 years time, we can have another appeal to "wipe out 3rd world debt" exactly what has happened in the past.

[matt674]

dave

in a nutshell the debate started looking at animals, humans and morality. althouugh the subject has been explored in more depth, we are still debating the same issue

mad

ps no wine for me. its too strong for this time of the morning. ill stick to fruit juice

TBH Mad i didnt read any of the thread just the initial post, and burst out laughing, Sark must be a wined / whined / whwywhnned (sp?) up merchant

wind - as in what you do with a watch......