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Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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...I score well over 400 points when I tot up my totals for all the problems (thereby putting me in a "good" player category) yet cannot consistently lock down a profit in £5 online games?!?! Maybe I have to think too much about it and don't have time; I did wrest with a couple of the problems for a good twenty mins or so.
Fantastic, by the way. It may be even more useful than Vols I and II...
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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July 16, 2006, 09:05:20 PM »
2+2 have also recently announced HOH vol 4 - NL Cash Games for Spring 2007. I'm sure that'll please a few people on here.
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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July 16, 2006, 09:40:22 PM »
Quote from: pswnio on July 16, 2006, 09:01:03 PM
...I score well over 400 points when I tot up my totals for all the problems (thereby putting me in a "good" player category) yet cannot consistently lock down a profit in £5 online games?!?! Maybe I have to think too much about it and don't have time; I did wrest with a couple of the problems for a good twenty mins or so.
Fantastic, by the way. It may be even more useful than Vols I and II...
Maybe Harrington's books just arent that good! SHOCK HORROR!
The more people who read and play the Harrington way the more i love it! Much like supersytem readers used to be really easy to spot in NL cash the same is true of the harrington readers in comps.
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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July 16, 2006, 10:21:32 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on July 16, 2006, 09:40:22 PM
Quote from: pswnio on July 16, 2006, 09:01:03 PM
...I score well over 400 points when I tot up my totals for all the problems (thereby putting me in a "good" player category) yet cannot consistently lock down a profit in £5 online games?!?! Maybe I have to think too much about it and don't have time; I did wrest with a couple of the problems for a good twenty mins or so.
Fantastic, by the way. It may be even more useful than Vols I and II...
Maybe Harrington's books just arent that good! SHOCK HORROR!
The more people who read and play the Harrington way the more i love it! Much like supersytem readers used to be really easy to spot in NL cash the same is true of the harrington readers in comps.
You just don't understand books without coloured pictures.
I hear the beano is doing a "poker for beginners" edition though so you're in luck. Dennis the menace and gnasher will have you caning those freerolls in no time.
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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You're probably using sophisticated moves against unsophisticated opponents.
You really do just play ABC at that level.
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M3boy
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Quote from: Royal Flush on July 16, 2006, 09:40:22 PM
Quote from: pswnio on July 16, 2006, 09:01:03 PM
...I score well over 400 points when I tot up my totals for all the problems (thereby putting me in a "good" player category) yet cannot consistently lock down a profit in £5 online games?!?! Maybe I have to think too much about it and don't have time; I did wrest with a couple of the problems for a good twenty mins or so.
Fantastic, by the way. It may be even more useful than Vols I and II...
Maybe Harrington's books just arent that good! SHOCK HORROR!
The more people who read and play the Harrington way the more i love it! Much like supersytem readers used to be really easy to spot in NL cash the same is true of the harrington readers in comps.
WOW James,,,, now if only you could play poker as good as you can talk poker, you would be a great player.....
Even better, why dont YOU write a book on poker? I am sure you will make a fortune from it!!
Just remind us all of your impresive live record?!?!?!?
(sarcasm involved here)
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Royal Flush
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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July 17, 2006, 12:37:59 AM »
Quote from: M3boy on July 17, 2006, 12:17:38 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on July 16, 2006, 09:40:22 PM
Quote from: pswnio on July 16, 2006, 09:01:03 PM
...I score well over 400 points when I tot up my totals for all the problems (thereby putting me in a "good" player category) yet cannot consistently lock down a profit in £5 online games?!?! Maybe I have to think too much about it and don't have time; I did wrest with a couple of the problems for a good twenty mins or so.
Fantastic, by the way. It may be even more useful than Vols I and II...
Maybe Harrington's books just arent that good! SHOCK HORROR!
The more people who read and play the Harrington way the more i love it! Much like supersytem readers used to be really easy to spot in NL cash the same is true of the harrington readers in comps.
WOW James,,,, now if only you could play poker as good as you can talk poker, you would be a great player.....
Even better, why dont YOU write a book on poker? I am sure you will make a fortune from it!!
Just remind us all of your impresive live record?!?!?!?
(sarcasm involved here)
I didn't say anything about how i play poker, i just said HoH is over-rated, its doesnt apply too nearly all the people that will read it!
I might just write a book on poker, seems people will buy anything that has the word poker on it!
As for my live record, i havent played enough events to really have an idea of where i stand, of the 30 ranking events i have played in i have cashed in 8, not too bad but like i say you really need a few hundred festival comps before you get an idea of where you stand.
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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LOL, i agree about people will buy anything with "poker" written on it
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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Quote from: Royal Flush on July 17, 2006, 12:37:59 AM
Quote from: M3boy on July 17, 2006, 12:17:38 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on July 16, 2006, 09:40:22 PM
Quote from: pswnio on July 16, 2006, 09:01:03 PM
...I score well over 400 points when I tot up my totals for all the problems (thereby putting me in a "good" player category) yet cannot consistently lock down a profit in £5 online games?!?! Maybe I have to think too much about it and don't have time; I did wrest with a couple of the problems for a good twenty mins or so.
Fantastic, by the way. It may be even more useful than Vols I and II...
Maybe Harrington's books just arent that good! SHOCK HORROR!
The more people who read and play the Harrington way the more i love it! Much like supersytem readers used to be really easy to spot in NL cash the same is true of the harrington readers in comps.
WOW James,,,, now if only you could play poker as good as you can talk poker, you would be a great player.....
Even better, why dont YOU write a book on poker? I am sure you will make a fortune from it!!
Just remind us all of your impresive live record?!?!?!?
(sarcasm involved here)
I didn't say anything about how i play poker, i just said HoH is over-rated, its doesnt apply too nearly all the people that will read it!
I might just write a book on poker, seems people will buy anything that has the word poker on it!
As for my live record, i havent played enough events to really have an idea of where i stand, of the 30 ranking events i have played in i have cashed in 8, not too bad but like i say you really need a few hundred festival comps before you get an idea of where you stand.
1 ranking event, 1 cash. Teh4 I obv da best.
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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July 17, 2006, 08:23:42 AM »
Quote from: Gryff on July 16, 2006, 10:51:17 PM
You're probably using sophisticated moves against unsophisticated opponents.
You really do just play ABC at that level.
That's what I thought, then I realised I'm conning myself. I'm just crap
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Quote from: Gryff on July 16, 2006, 10:51:17 PM
You're probably using sophisticated moves against unsophisticated opponents.
You really do just play ABC at that level.
I don't know this could be the case - I have read people having similar problems elsewhere, it's no use playing clever, subtle, sophisticated moves when the other players at the table won' t understand what's going on. Even simple things like putting in a pot sized bet on the turn so that anyone on a straight draw won't have the pot odds to call doesn't work (I won't go into the details that would just be a gratuitous bad beat story).
Or of course you might be right in your last post
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Quote from: Gryff on July 16, 2006, 10:51:17 PM
You're probably using sophisticated moves against unsophisticated opponents.
You really do just play ABC at that level.
Gryff, what would you suggest I do? I have had more success at higher levels when I've dipped my toe in, but my bankroll isn't enough to sustain even a smallish losing streak. Do I build my bankroll by playing ABC at lower levels and then ABC habits when I've got enough to step up, or do I just plunge in and pray that the first few STTs go well?
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Quote from: Jon MW on July 17, 2006, 08:26:53 AM
Quote from: Gryff on July 16, 2006, 10:51:17 PM
You're probably using sophisticated moves against unsophisticated opponents.
You really do just play ABC at that level.
I don't know this could be the case - I have read people having similar problems elsewhere, it's no use playing clever, subtle, sophisticated moves when the other players at the table won' t understand what's going on. Even simple things like putting in a pot sized bet on the turn so that anyone on a straight draw won't have the pot odds to call doesn't work (I won't go into the details that would just be a gratuitous bad beat story).
Or of course you might be right in your last post
If you can't beat the game at the level where people call pot bets on the turn with str8 draws then you won't be able to beat the game at higher levels. Winning at poker is about maximising on your opponents mistakes, and that is a huge one.
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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July 17, 2006, 09:54:42 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on July 17, 2006, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: Jon MW on July 17, 2006, 08:26:53 AM
Quote from: Gryff on July 16, 2006, 10:51:17 PM
You're probably using sophisticated moves against unsophisticated opponents.
You really do just play ABC at that level.
I don't know this could be the case - I have read people having similar problems elsewhere, it's no use playing clever, subtle, sophisticated moves when the other players at the table won' t understand what's going on. Even simple things like putting in a pot sized bet on the turn so that anyone on a straight draw won't have the pot odds to call doesn't work (I won't go into the details that would just be a gratuitous bad beat story).
Or of course you might be right in your last post
If you can't beat the game at the level where people call pot bets on the turn with str8 draws then you won't be able to beat the game at higher levels. Winning at poker is about maximising on your opponents mistakes, and that is a huge one.
You can't beat them if they get one of the 4 cards to fill their inside straight draws, however good you are. My point being that if they don't understand how unlikely it is that they will win they'll still call.
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Re: Harrington vol 3 - why is it that...
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July 17, 2006, 10:33:24 AM »
Quote from: Jon MW on July 17, 2006, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on July 17, 2006, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: Jon MW on July 17, 2006, 08:26:53 AM
Quote from: Gryff on July 16, 2006, 10:51:17 PM
You're probably using sophisticated moves against unsophisticated opponents.
You really do just play ABC at that level.
I don't know this could be the case - I have read people having similar problems elsewhere, it's no use playing clever, subtle, sophisticated moves when the other players at the table won' t understand what's going on. Even simple things like putting in a pot sized bet on the turn so that anyone on a straight draw won't have the pot odds to call doesn't work (I won't go into the details that would just be a gratuitous bad beat story).
Or of course you might be right in your last post
If you can't beat the game at the level where people call pot bets on the turn with str8 draws then you won't be able to beat the game at higher levels. Winning at poker is about maximising on your opponents mistakes, and that is a huge one.
You can't beat them if they get one of the 4 cards to fill their inside straight draws, however good you are. My point being that if they don't understand how unlikely it is that they will win they'll still call.
You can't beat them if they play perfect poker unless you get lucky.....
I am happy for people to call all day long if they have a gutshot draw.
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