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« on: July 23, 2006, 12:44:20 PM »

[Jul 22 18:09:42] : Hand Start.
[Jul 22 18:09:42] : Seat 1 : Russtrtrt has $30.12
[Jul 22 18:09:42] : Seat 2 : Irishrudy has $13.34
[Jul 22 18:09:42] : Seat 3 : JaggedX has $84.32
[Jul 22 18:09:42] : Seat 4 : -neeko- has $34.94
[Jul 22 18:09:42] : Seat 5 : cantwiw has $95.50
[Jul 22 18:09:42] : Seat 6 : Doc Farrell has $39.75
[Jul 22 18:09:42] : cantwiw is the dealer.
[Jul 22 18:09:42] : Doc Farrell posted small blind.
[Jul 22 18:09:43] : Russtrtrt posted big blind.
[Jul 22 18:09:43] : Game [4755] started with 5 players.
[Jul 22 18:09:43] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jul 22 18:09:43] : Seat 4 : -neeko- has three clubs
[Jul 22 18:09:48] : JaggedX called $0.50 and raised $1
[Jul 22 18:09:50] : -neeko- called $1.50
[Jul 22 18:09:54] : cantwiw called $1.50
[Jul 22 18:09:56] : Doc Farrell called $1.25
[Jul 22 18:10:11] : Russtrtrt has 10 seconds to respond.
[Jul 22 18:10:12] : Russtrtrt called $1
[Jul 22 18:10:13] : Dealing flop.
[Jul 22 18:10:13] : Board cards [ two hearts ]
[Jul 22 18:10:16] : Doc Farrell checked.
[Jul 22 18:10:17] : Russtrtrt checked.
[Jul 22 18:10:24] : JaggedX checked.
[Jul 22 18:10:27] : -neeko- bet $2
[Jul 22 18:10:31] : cantwiw folded.
[Jul 22 18:10:38] : Doc Farrell called $2
[Jul 22 18:10:41] : Russtrtrt called $2 and raised $4
[Jul 22 18:10:44] : JaggedX folded.
[Jul 22 18:10:44] : -neeko- called $4
[Jul 22 18:10:52] : Doc Farrell called $4
[Jul 22 18:10:52] : Dealing turn.
[Jul 22 18:10:52] : Board cards [ two hearts ]
[Jul 22 18:11:05] : Doc Farrell bet $25.50
[Jul 22 18:11:09] : Russtrtrt folded.
[Jul 22 18:11:23] : It's your turn.
[Jul 22 18:11:23] : -neeko- has 10 seconds to respond.
[Jul 22 18:11:29] : -neeko- called $25.50 and raised $1.94 and is All-in
[Jul 22 18:11:29] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect.
[Jul 22 18:11:32] : Doc Farrell called $1.94
[Jul 22 18:11:33] : Showdown!
[Jul 22 18:11:33] : Seat 4 : -neeko- has three clubs
[Jul 22 18:11:35] : Seat 4 : -neeko- has three clubs
[Jul 22 18:11:35] : Seat 6 : Doc Farrell has
[Jul 22 18:11:40] : Board cards [ two hearts ]
[Jul 22 18:11:40] : Seat 4 : -neeko- has three clubs
[Jul 22 18:11:40] : -neeko- has Two Pair: Jack's and 8's
[Jul 22 18:11:40] : Seat 6 : Doc Farrell has
[Jul 22 18:11:40] : Doc Farrell has Straight JT987
[Jul 22 18:11:40] : Doc Farrell wins $77.38 with Straight JT987
[Jul 22 18:11:44] : Doc Farrell : ul
[Jul 22 18:11:45] : -neeko- : nh
[Jul 22 18:11:50] : Hand is over.

Calling pre-flop I thought was OK - although maybe a mindset of hit the flop hard or get out of the way should have bee the policy.

On the flop I think I was too week (it had been fairly passive game previously).

The turn was just designed to get me in trouble, i was certain that after the pot sized bet i was behind, but i could see the 15 outs so about 30ish % wth pot odds of abouut 2:1.

Poker calculator later puts me at 32.6% - 67.4%

Call and chase, or fold (only $7.50 invested in the pot to that point)?
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2006, 02:58:23 PM »

Really, I think you can't consider the 9's to be outs here except for a split pot. I would expect him to have Q9 and not 97 here.

He played the hand terribly, he calls on the flop for the idiot end of a gutshot straight on a two club board...I want to play against him!!!!

I would fold on the turn and then reload, you can't be sure the turn has provided you with additional outs...
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 07:16:08 PM »

Floppy is spot on, he is clearly a very poor player!

When its raised back at you for $4 more, re-pop it, he doesnt have a hand he likes much there or he would have potted it himself.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 08:02:00 PM »

Floppy is spot on

I'm going to print that out, frame that and stick it on my wall.   Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2006, 08:03:43 PM »

Floppy is spot on

I'm going to print that out, frame that and stick it on my wall.   Cheesy

Mods help me out here!
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