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« on: July 31, 2006, 05:51:50 PM »

I played in the Party $200,000 Freezeout on Saturday night. It was, as most mtt's on Party are, a huge field of 989 entries. Anyway, finally after 5 hours, I get to the final table with about 400k chips. I'm about middle order in chips and fairly comfortable. Two short stacked players get knocked out fairly quickly and the blinds are 15/30k.

One guy has been raising into the blinds almost every hand regardless of position. I fold my blinds for a rotation, then get AKs on my BB. Sure enough matey raises to 100k. Everyone folds round to me. I'm certain he's 'At IT' so decide to go all-in for 350k. He takes al lot of time to think and types into the chat box ''Hmm 2 to 1''.

To call my all-in will be 60% of his chips and I'm certain he will fold.

After an eternity he calls and turns over Q6os. He of course hit his Q on the turn and I'm out in 8th place.

Can anyone give me an insight into his reasoning and why he would call this.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2006, 05:56:55 PM »

He's clearly a muppet mate!

I don't think there is much else to say.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2006, 06:00:37 PM »

Because he is a fish of the lowest order and figures you for two overcards.

His assumption of 2 to 1 isn't far off as his Q6os will win 30% of the time whereas your AKs will hold up 69% of the time, assuming his Q6 doesn't share a suit with your cards.

So I guess he's a big chip daddy with a bullying problem, or was he calling for all his chips? You where unlucky.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2006, 06:01:51 PM »

Hold on a minute

He is getting 2-1 on what he thinks is a 6-4 shot, two live cards against your hand. Granted he is sunk if you have a big pair

Whilst this is not a play I do because I am more ABC, you can get to it on pot odds and he has as I read it 300k or 10xbb left if he loses. If he knocks you out he is in a dominant postion


To conclude, I can see it but unlucky anyway
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2006, 06:03:48 PM »

Because he figures you for Ak or similar, he has invested 100k, has decentish pot odds and is still left with a workable stack if he loses.
Not everyones choice but there is some reasoning behind it.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2006, 06:04:54 PM »

Tighty beat me to it...............
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2006, 06:51:45 PM »

but why is he raising in the first place with Q 6 for??

thats a muppet of the highest calibre if you ask me.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2006, 06:58:01 PM »

but why is he raising in the first place with Q 6 for??

thats a muppet of the highest calibre if you ask me.

a steal?
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2006, 06:58:13 PM »

I guess that he raises to try and steal the blinds... its either that or he is raising hoping to get a caller, and I know which one is more likely.

a muppet play of the highest calibre is jamming into a preflop limper on a 8910 board with 96os. Raising to steal the blinds isn't normally considered a "muppet" play.




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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2006, 07:01:10 PM »

but why is he raising in the first place with Q 6 for??

thats a muppet of the highest calibre if you ask me.

It's where a good player has his edge, he doesnt wait for cards.
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2006, 07:05:08 PM »

but why is he raising in the first place with Q 6 for??

thats a muppet of the highest calibre if you ask me.

he is raising with Q6 to steal the 45k blinds and any running antes in the pot. by the sounds of it he has nicked loads of blinds doing this.. there is nothing wrong with him raising with it, maybe the call is a little loose.

i played a mtt online last night and had a massive chip lead of 100k+ ave was 15k. blinds were 1.5k/3k with a big running ante cant remember what now. it was my BB and guy goes all in for nearly 10 k leaving me just over 6k to call. i had 35off but i would win 19k if i called 6k over 3/1 so i called. he had AQ so i was 2/1 at worst flop came with a 2 and a 4 on it so i was up and down plus 2 live cards to hit as outs.

when i missed one guy gave me a right verble in the chat box saying i shouldnt of called but sometimes if the odds are right you just call with any 2
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2006, 07:07:20 PM »

Tighty/Flushy,

If you read over the original post then this guy has been raising every blind on this occasion he just gets lucky.  If he hadn't been raising hand after hand and jammed his chips in with Q 6 on the odd occasion you would say it was a good player, or a steal attempt.  I don't see this one like this at all, i reckon this guy is no knore than a big stack bully.  I would almost guarantee he never went on to win thr tourney especially if he kept playing like that.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2006, 07:08:07 PM »

but why is he raising in the first place with Q 6 for??

thats a muppet of the highest calibre if you ask me.

If your raises have anything to do with your hand strength at this stage of a tourney then you are way too predictable and will get burnt by good players.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2006, 07:09:24 PM »

Tighty/Flushy,

If you read over the original post then this guy has been raising every blind on this occasion he just gets lucky.  If he hadn't been raising hand after hand and jammed his chips in with Q 6 on the odd occasion you would say it was a good player, or a steal attempt.  I don't see this one like this at all, i reckon this guy is no knore than a big stack bully.  I would almost guarantee he never went on to win thr tourney especially if he kept playing like that.

Well he got past 980 players to get this far. He must be doing something right!

The point is he calls this, wins the pot he is a huge stack and people think he is a loon, they wont play back at him without hands because they think he will call with Q6, what a situation to be in!
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2006, 07:21:09 PM »

Tighty/Flushy,

If you read over the original post then this guy has been raising every blind on this occasion he just gets lucky.  If he hadn't been raising hand after hand and jammed his chips in with Q 6 on the odd occasion you would say it was a good player, or a steal attempt.  I don't see this one like this at all, i reckon this guy is no knore than a big stack bully.  I would almost guarantee he never went on to win thr tourney especially if he kept playing like that.

Well he got past 980 players to get this far. He must be doing something right!

The point is he calls this, wins the pot he is a huge stack and people think he is a loon, they wont play back at him without hands because they think he will call with Q6, what a situation to be in!

I suppose when you put it like that it all makes sense but definately not a call I'd make!!!
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