O/T 9/11 conspiracy theories

[Maddog]

They reckon that one of the planes is still flying and has been spotted since 9/11  >:?

Maybe stripes would have been a better disguise.
 

[AndrewT]

You can watch him talking about his theories here.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5403286136814574974

Shayler was never anything like a 'top guy' at MI5 - he was only there for 5 years and originally thought he was applying for a media job when he responded to the advert in the newspaper.

[Maddog]

Maybe this helps to explain his views :-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5341642.stm

[SupaMonkey]

What he says about the oil for euros thing in the second one is true. I've lost the link now but earlier this year the yanks stopped posting their M3 data. This data contains the number of dollars held by non-US countries, why have they done this? An industry insider (apparently) answered and said that bascially the level of personal debt in the US was very high and they don't have enough gold or whatever to back it up in their country. Their currency only has value because if anyone wants to buy oil, they have to do it at new york or london and buy it in dollars (the exchange they do it through in london is US owned). Therefore everyone has to keep a certain stash of dollars to buy oil.  If everyone suddenly changed and started buying oil in euro's the US economy would crumbled because of the level of their debt. This has been seen recently by the weakening trend of the dollar vs almost every other global currency for the last 6 months. Apparently the chinese have already said that they would buy their oil in euros rather than in dollars and if they did, that would be alot of US dollars being sold off (i heard a conspiracy theory that the US doesn't give china all the oil it needs in order to slow their growth). Recently a lot of big hedge funds etc have been dunmping their dollars so there must be some truth to this.


On the other hand, what he says about the steel (in the first one) is crap. It doesn't need to get to it's melting point to lose strength and deform. In fact it clearly doesn't do this becuase there wasn't a pool of molten steel at the bottom of the tower, so he needs to revise his facts. It's also possible that the adjacent building was demolished because it was deemed unsafe (i'm doing a phd in civil eng. edit: i put this bit in brackets on here so people know i know what i'm talking about and not just speculating, i don't want to sound up myself).

[Rooky9]

This is even more crazy than the one I found a few months ago about gold be the motivation!

The only part of any conspiracy theory I have any regard for is that United 93 actually being shot down rather than brought down by the passengers, even thought they were undoubtably prepared and on the verge of doing it.

[Royal Flush]

The only part of any conspiracy theory I have any regard for is that United 93 actually being shot down rather than brought down by the passengers, even thought they were undoubtably prepared and on the verge of doing it.

Yeah i would be more inclined to believe that if it wasn't for the fact that they admitted they had orders to shoot it down, and were on the way to do so when it crashed. No need to really then claim it was a crash if it wasn't.

[Rooky9]

The only part of any conspiracy theory I have any regard for is that United 93 actually being shot down rather than brought down by the passengers, even thought they were undoubtably prepared and on the verge of doing it.

Yeah i would be more inclined to believe that if it wasn't for the fact that they admitted they had orders to shoot it down, and were on the way to do so when it crashed. No need to really then claim it was a crash if it wasn't.

Well it increases the US sprit that way, no need (or benefit) to turn it round.

Do you not find it strange the area the wreakage covered and the fact that the same (or similar size) craft had such a massive impact compared to the small crater this one did?

[Royal Flush]

The only part of any conspiracy theory I have any regard for is that United 93 actually being shot down rather than brought down by the passengers, even thought they were undoubtably prepared and on the verge of doing it.

Yeah i would be more inclined to believe that if it wasn't for the fact that they admitted they had orders to shoot it down, and were on the way to do so when it crashed. No need to really then claim it was a crash if it wasn't.

Well it increases the US sprit that way, no need (or benefit) to turn it round.

Do you not find it strange the area the wreakage covered and the fact that the same (or similar size) craft had such a massive impact compared to the small crater this one did?

I am not an accident investigator but i have met a few and from what i understand every crash is very diffrent and they all display really odd evidence. It truely is a facinating job.

[Scottish Dave]

It was the biggest Conspiracy the worald has seen, how else would Bush find a reason to invade Iraq for their oil!

It was the biggest stage act the world has in history!

Blatant

[totalise]

well, there you have it.. definitive proof!

[Nem]

well, there you have it.. definitive proof!

[Scottish Dave]

well, there you have it.. definitive proof!

Did i say i was posting proof???

this is an open forum and i posted my opinon, maybe you should post something on the subject, and try to debate my opinion instead if attacking someone elses views?

[Sark79]

lol love it.

Stories like this make me realise than i am normal....

I thought I was normal once, unfortunately my alarm clock woke me up 

[Claw75]

Scottish David Shayler

[Colchester Kev]

welcome back Dave ...