What's justice?

[bolt pp]

Next you will say calling a prisoner a criminal is not allowed!

Not all prisoners are criminals

If he was on remand and hadnt been convicted of anything yet then it would be slanderous to call him a criminal

[Swordpoker]

Next you will say calling a prisoner a criminal is not allowed!

Not all prisoners are criminals

If he was on remand and hadnt been convicted of anything yet then it would be slanderous to call him a criminal

Or what about half the folk in Guantanamo Bay?   

[Royal Flush]

Next you will say calling a prisoner a criminal is not allowed!

Not all prisoners are criminals

If he was on remand and hadnt been convicted of anything yet then it would be slanderous to call him a criminal

The point though is clear.

A chav is not a chav untill they do something 'chavy'

[Swordpoker]

Oh, and I don't mean the prison guards.....the other half 

[RED-DOG]

Is this a Joke?

Red i really can't see why you are worked up about this.

Chav's are not a race, they are not a social-economic grouping, they are the people who like hanging around McDonalds being anti-social, they like terrorising people. They happen to nearly always dress a like. The thread is not saying everyone dressed like them is a chav.

Next you will say calling a prisoner a criminal is not allowed!

It's the "Nearly always" bit that worries me.

Look back over the thread, see how different people define 'Chav' and then tell me there is no room for the innocent to be tarred with the same brush.

There are, and always will be, a lot of prisoners who are not criminals.

[RED-DOG]

Just because my opinion happens to differ from yours, doesn't make it a joke.

[Royal Flush]

Just because my opinion happens to differ from yours, doesn't make it a joke.

It's not the opion its the way evreyone jumped on this thread!

Is yob a term that falls in the same situatuion then?

Drunks?
Druggie's?

[bolt pp]

Is this a Joke?

Red i really can't see why you are worked up about this.

Chav's are not a race, they are not a social-economic grouping, they are the people who like hanging around McDonalds being anti-social, they like terrorising people. They happen to nearly always dress a like. The thread is not saying everyone dressed like them is a chav.

Next you will say calling a prisoner a criminal is not allowed!

It's the "Nearly always" bit that worries me.


There are, and always will be, a lot of prisoners who are not criminals.

Two very well made points with which i unequivically agree.

[RED-DOG]

Just because my opinion happens to differ from yours, doesn't make it a joke.

It's not the opion its the way evreyone jumped on this thread!

Is yob a term that falls in the same situatuion then?

Drunks?
Druggie's?

I personally didn't like the idea of a thread solely designed to persecute a group. ANY group.

What you are saying is if there are four brothers, all dressed the same, all talk the same, society will only label the one who steals something a Chav?

[bolt pp]

Next you will say calling a prisoner a criminal is not allowed!

Not all prisoners are criminals

If he was on remand and hadnt been convicted of anything yet then it would be slanderous to call him a criminal

The point though is clear.

A chav is not a chav untill they do something 'chavy'

Is it fair of my mate who got beat up in a private card game to say that all professional card players are nefarious, untrustworthy characters?

This was a prevalent perception of card players at one time and he can back this assertion up with a corroborative experience of his own.

Firstly is he right? i would say no

Irrespective of whether or not he's right is it correct and fair of him to portray all professional card players like this?

[mikkyT]

Not all prisoners are criminals!

[Royal Flush]

I personally didn't like the idea of a thread solely designed to persecute a group. ANY group.

Fair enough.

I guess we cant mock losing poker players anymore! 

[bolt pp]

I personally didn't like the idea of a thread solely designed to persecute a group. ANY group.

Fair enough.

I guess we cant mock losing poker players anymore! 

he said GROUP flushy, not individual, YOU FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISH

[Swordpoker]

Just because my opinion happens to differ from yours, doesn't make it a joke.

It's not the opion its the way evreyone jumped on this thread!

Is yob a term that falls in the same situatuion then?

Drunks?
Druggie's?

I personally didn't like the idea of a thread solely designed to persecute a group. ANY group.

What you are saying is if there are four brothers, all dressed the same, all talk the same, society will only label the one who steals something a Chav?

Red, are you insinuating that I am part of society? That's a huge generalisation. You should treat me as an individual and not tar me with the same brush as all these other reprebates 

[Royal Flush]

I personally didn't like the idea of a thread solely designed to persecute a group. ANY group.

Fair enough.

I guess we cant mock losing poker players anymore! 

he said GROUP flushy, not individual, YOU FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISH

lol ok.

So as long as i don't say "oh yeah in the gutshot they are all fish" i am not persecuting anyone?

I am off for a break, a few bad beats and this thread are close to pushing me over the edge!