What's justice?

[bolt pp]

this thread is absolutely shocking.

Why?

cos theres a poll that nemesis didnt start

[SupaMonkey]

11 replies have been posted while i've been writing this so it was supposed to be further up.

Ok fair enough, let me explain.

The difference between a chav and a non chav is essentially ethics/morals. Chavs are generally kids who know they can get away with lot, they have no fear so they do what they like (unless they are by themselves). Chavs will stone your house/nick your car stereo where non-chavs know this is wrong and don't do it. As a consequence you find that one group do not like to hang out with other and obviously the two groups don't get on. One group does not like to be associated with the other hence they dress differently, act differently etc.

I understand you are saying this is bigotry but then i must ask you why you thing this prejudice/discrimination exists. It is neither sexist nor racist and to my knowledge the term did not exist 3 years ago (ish). Therefore i think the stereotype must be warranted by its very existence.

Red-dog, i don't understand your question (about the gypsies).

[brad.strider]

this thread is absolutely shocking.

Why?

theres this book "to kill a mocking bird"

[RED-DOG]

Red-dog, i don't understand your question (about the gypsies).

It's a simple one. Have you ever heard Gypsies described in similar terms to the way you described Chavs in your first post?

[TheGreenOne]

I'm baffled by the response to this poll.  I am from Chatham where it is said the Chav culture began and it was a label that was originally given almost in a kind of jovial manner but has since become known nationwide and applied across all our counties.  My poll was simply designed to create some humour and get some fun ideas, it should not be taken too seriously  

You want everyone to get together and poke fun at a particular section of society. Don't be surprised if everyone dosen't join in.

In hindsight, I can see how some people may see it as you do RED.... but I can assure everybody that it was not designed for that purpose

[thetank]

A wee bitty miffed with myself.

Didn't spot the inherently iffy tone of this thread and joined in.

Sorry

[lynx5.0]

these Ned's/chavs stab and rob my friends for fun and steal are racist now not one of the options given can do justice i would happily pull the trigger my self because these people are the scum of the earth i rate them the same as shit on my shoe.

an eye for an eye.

what you sitting around on a forum for then? sounds like you know the ones that robbed your freinds, go and get them.


 sometimes we catch em sometimes we don't  

[SupaMonkey]

I heard a discussion on radio 4 about the 'Chav' culture. I can't remember what was said but how non-pc can it be if bbc 4 are talking about it.

[RED-DOG]

I'm baffled by the response to this poll.  I am from Chatham where it is said the Chav culture began and it was a label that was originally given almost in a kind of jovial manner but has since become known nationwide and applied across all our counties.  My poll was simply designed to create some humour and get some fun ideas, it should not be taken too seriously  

You want everyone to get together and poke fun at a particular section of society. Don't be surprised if everyone dosen't join in.

In hindsight, I can see how some people may see it as you do RED.... but I can assure everybody that it was not designed for that purpose

Thank you, well said.

[Claw75]

why?  I think Red Dog has summed it up better than I could and I agree with everything he has said on this thread.

How many people would think it was acceptable if 'chav' was replaced with 'pikey' in this thread? 

In addition, these kind of discussons about vigilante 'justice' just wind me up. 

[SupaMonkey]

Red-dog, i don't understand your question (about the gypsies).

It's a simple one. Have you ever heard Gypsies described in similar terms to the way you described Chavs in your first post?

The only time i have ever heard any derogatory about Gypsies is when i lived near Milton Keynes. Everytime the gypsies stay nearby (to the gym i went to) you were to told to make sures tyres (on 4x4s etc.) were put in your boot because everytime they stayed nearby those sorts of things went missing. However, the gypsies are a group of people who reside all over the world so it is not possible to make generalisations about them.

[thetank]

Let's round up all the vigilantes and make them pay. 

[TheGreenOne]

This was the first poll i've ever started.....

Think i'll make it my last!  

[bolt pp]

Red-dog, i don't understand your question (about the gypsies).

It's a simple one. Have you ever heard Gypsies described in similar terms to the way you described Chavs in your first post?

The only time i have ever heard any derogatory about Gypsies is when i lived near Milton Keynes. Everytime the gypsies stay nearby (to the gym i went to) you were to told to make sures tyres (on 4x4s etc.) were put in your boot because everytime they stayed nearby those sorts of things went missing. However, the gypsies are a group of people who reside all over the world so it is not possible to make generalisations about them.

now i see where you're coming from, couldnt you have posted this at the start so the thread couldve been taken off and i couldve saved myself the time in trying to highlight your benighted prejudice.

[Swordpoker]

I think there is a big difference between generalising about a type of community and a type of behaviour. Showing predujice about a particular community would be nasty and uncalled for but slagging off buckfast filled joyriders is fair game. Chavs are chavs because of what they do not because of where they're from.