Setting up a Poker Room

[dik9]

For those of you that have read Swimming with the Devilfish, you may know where I do some part time dealing(chapter 7)

It is now probably the cheapest, friendliest, safest, most professionally run game in town, and that is saying something considering the cardrooms around Birmingham. The service charge still stands at £5 an hour, no rake. For that £5 you get unlimited drinks and food and decent dealers. The place itself has always been deemed as illegal, but as the person who runs it, sleeps there and is his residential address. It is classed as a private dweling, and run for the love of it, rather than for profit.

I know of gaming officials up and down the country, say to the owners of some private clubs that it is ok, and there is no problems. These "officials" seem to be talking out of their arse, as Mr. Moves says the country is being saturated by illegal cardrooms. IMO the popularity has just got to big for the GC and they have given up trying to regulate. And only act if there is a complaint, especially whilst the Gutshot case is going through.

[mikkyT]

Mikky, sounds like that website yer on is talking shoite.

Its not talking shite, its quoting from the 1968 gaming act, which I have read but now cannot find. Its a government website and until 2007 the information on it is correct. (Yes, I know the governement doesn't usually have websites which are correct but this one is lol)

Because it was repealled(along with the other two main gaming acts) upon implementation of the newest act.

It is not repealed until 2007.

The Gambling Act 2005 does not come into force until 2007 and therefore the Gaming Act 1968, the lotteries act 19xx and all the other amendments thereof are all still in force. I do know what I am talking about as before I got involved playing at Riverboat and Cincins I was tasked with finding out about setting up a poker game at my local miners welfare and I spent 3 days printing off legislation and downloaded acts and commentaries on acts.

[thetank]

Its not talking shite

I was trying to agree with you ffs

I still beg to differ.

[mikkyT]

Ah ok, missed the underlying humour tankie

BTW those interested in the 2005 act and all its glory can read it here http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts2005/20050019.htm

[dik9]

On the Gaming Commissions website, it lists its schedules and dates for legislation and implementation

[mikkyT]

BTW count yourselves lucky that the new act is not yet inforce, because the new act outlines the definition of "game of equal chance" far better than the original one did.

(1) In this Act "gaming" means playing a game of chance for a prize.
 
         (2) In this Act "game of chance"-
 
     

      (a) includes-

     

            (i) a game that involves both an element of chance and an element of skill,

     

            (ii) a game that involves an element of chance that can be eliminated by superlative skill, and

     

            (iii) a game that is presented as involving an element of chance, but

     

      (b) does not include a sport.

         (3) For the purposes of this Act a person plays a game of chance if he participates in a game of chance-
 
     

      (a) whether or not there are other participants in the game, and

     

      (b) whether or not a computer generates images or data taken to represent the actions of other participants in the game.

         (4) For the purposes of this Act a person plays a game of chance for a prize-
 
     

      (a) if he plays a game of chance and thereby acquires a chance of winning a prize, and

     

      (b) whether or not he risks losing anything at the game.

[bolt pp]

BTW count yourselves lucky that the new act is not yet inforce, because the new act outlines the definition of "game of equal chance" far better than the original one did.

(1) In this Act "gaming" means playing a game of chance for a prize.
 
         (2) In this Act "game of chance"-
 
     

      (a) includes-

     

            (i) a game that involves both an element of chance and an element of skill,

     

            (ii) a game that involves an element of chance that can be eliminated by superlative skill, and

     

            (iii) a game that is presented as involving an element of chance, but

     

      (b) does not include a sport.

         (3) For the purposes of this Act a person plays a game of chance if he participates in a game of chance-
 
     

      (a) whether or not there are other participants in the game, and

     

      (b) whether or not a computer generates images or data taken to represent the actions of other participants in the game.

         (4) For the purposes of this Act a person plays a game of chance for a prize-
 
     

      (a) if he plays a game of chance and thereby acquires a chance of winning a prize, and

     

      (b) whether or not he risks losing anything at the game.

The standing committees charged with refining the intricacies of government legislation sit about drinking brandy for two years then come up with all this crap with about a week to go, a procedure well illustrated here.

[mikkyT]

BTW Andrew and others, I haven't meant to put anyone down here so I feel I must apologise if I've come across as being a little agressive in putting my point across! I just get passionate about things I *think* I know somehting about. Sorry.

[thetank]

Poker is a game of chance and skill. In situations where players have equal skill (or equal lack of skill) it becomes purely a game of chance.

I'm not of the opinion that it's a pure skill game, and should not be treated as such but.....


Those guidlines are ridiculous, they don't outline anything at all. Any activity you name, be it badminton, tiddily winks, chess or curling could fall into the "luck and skill" bracket if they so deem.

Maybe that's what they want. A green light to bully the fock out of anything that appears in the future.


Video piracy is a crime, do not accept it. Demand a genuine cassete from your video store. Poor quality, illegal tapes, reduce your viewing pleasure, and jeapordise future film prouction.

[AndrewT]

BTW Andrew and others, I haven't meant to put anyone down here so I feel I must apologise if I've come across as being a little agressive in putting my point across! I just get passionate about things I *think* I know somehting about. Sorry.

No problem with me Mikky. Let's face it, you are from Glasgow, after all.

[Nem]

BTW Andrew and others, I haven't meant to put anyone down here so I feel I must apologise if I've come across as being a little agressive in putting my point across! I just get passionate about things I *think* I know somehting about. Sorry.

No problem with me Mikky. Let's face it, you are from Glasgow, after all.

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[mikkyT]

BTW Andrew and others, I haven't meant to put anyone down here so I feel I must apologise if I've come across as being a little agressive in putting my point across! I just get passionate about things I *think* I know somehting about. Sorry.

No problem with me Mikky. Let's face it, you are from Glasgow, after all.

I'm from Liverpool. I just happen to live amongst these roudy rabble of jocks

[AndrewT]

BTW Andrew and others, I haven't meant to put anyone down here so I feel I must apologise if I've come across as being a little agressive in putting my point across! I just get passionate about things I *think* I know somehting about. Sorry.

No problem with me Mikky. Let's face it, you are from Glasgow, after all.

I'm from Liverpool. I just happen to live amongst these roudy rabble of jocks

My apologies - please don't take my suggestion you were Scottish as a personal affront.

[mikkyT]

BTW Andrew and others, I haven't meant to put anyone down here so I feel I must apologise if I've come across as being a little agressive in putting my point across! I just get passionate about things I *think* I know somehting about. Sorry.

No problem with me Mikky. Let's face it, you are from Glasgow, after all.

I'm from Liverpool. I just happen to live amongst these roudy rabble of jocks

My apologies - please don't take my suggestion you were Scottish as a personal affront.

Well, you can see how one could easily be offended by such suggestions

[Royal Flush]

      (b) does not include a sport.

Those guidlines are ridiculous, they don't outline anything at all. Any activity you name, be it badminton, tiddily winks, chess or curling could fall into the "luck and skill" bracket if they so deem.