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« on: September 22, 2006, 01:37:22 AM »

[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Hand Start.
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Seat 2 : pair_of_2s has $15,765
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Seat 3 : TonyB has $6,840
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Seat 4 : Blondem3boy has $9,895
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Seat 6 : erez has $25,725
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Seat 7 : bullypete has $14,200
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Seat 8 : brett_ ho has $8,190
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : TonyB is the dealer.
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Blondem3boy posted small blind.
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : erez posted big blind.
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Game [113] started with 6 players.
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Sep 22 00:20:04] : Seat 4 : Blondem3boy has
[Sep 22 00:20:05] : Stakes: 400/800 Current level: 8 Level up in: 1 min. Break in: 16 min. Players : 11
[Sep 22 00:20:06] : bullypete folded.
[Sep 22 00:20:10] : brett_ ho folded.
[Sep 22 00:20:11] : pair_of_2s folded.
[Sep 22 00:20:13] : TonyB folded.

So its bubble time, 6 get paid . Av stack is around 13k
Blinds about to go to 600 1200

Do you stick em all in with the 77? Knowing that the big stack (who has been aggressive) will call with any ace or any two high cards? Therefore giving you a slight advantage going to the flop to double up (assuming you havent ran into a higher PP) ??

Or do you fold, and attack the SB + BB (1800 total) on the next 3 hands?
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2006, 01:43:03 AM »

I make it 4k to go.

I also wouldnt be worrying about the bubble untill you at least on the final.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2006, 01:45:54 AM »

In the small blind i would limp to the flop, lead at it but be ready to get away, you have plenty of chips to make the final
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2006, 01:47:58 AM »

OK, I take ur point about the bubble, I meant one to go till F/T - you cannot win unless u make it that far.

So u make it 4k to go - he sets u all in. Then what??
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2006, 01:49:26 AM »

OK, I take ur point about the bubble, I meant one to go till F/T - you cannot win unless u make it that far.

So u make it 4k to go - he sets u all in. Then what??

if he sets you in you kid of have to call...
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2006, 01:50:48 AM »

If thats the case - why not go all in preflop?Huh?

He is the type of player that will set u all in whatever you do
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2006, 01:53:48 AM »

If thats the case - why not go all in preflop?Huh?

He is the type of player that will set u all in whatever you do

Good then 77 vs any hand is 66%


The advantage to the raise to 4k is the times he flat calls with something like KJ and passes if he misses the flop.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2006, 01:59:08 AM »

thats why i would have played it differently preflop, with a limp, if he's paying any attention he may be inclined to check it as it would possibly be out of character for you to limp given this blokes table image.

Another advantage to the limp doe the small blind is you get away from it cheap, if the flop come something like     two hearts , chances are your 7's are good enough to take down a small but important pot, its a bit passive, but at this stage I'd rather make my "move" on the FT than here.

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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2006, 01:59:32 AM »

Yep, I understand the 4k raise - was answering newmanseye, not you m8

Reason for asking is this - same tourney 2 nights running I have exited in 10th spot with the same (just under av stack) situation. mid PP in SB vs aggressive BB. - both times loosing alot of chips about 20 minutes prior

Yesterday ran into AJ
Today ran into AQ

Now my opinion is that I want to win the damn thing - and am happy to take an advantage to the flop to double up - just wanted to make sure I am not slipping into bad habbits.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2006, 02:01:02 AM »

thats why i would have played it differently preflop, with a limp, if he's paying any attention he may be inclined to check it as it would possibly be out of character for you to limp given this blokes table image.

Another advantage to the limp doe the small blind is you get away from it cheap, if the flop come something like     two hearts , chances are your 7's are good enough to take down a small but important pot, its a bit passive, but at this stage I'd rather make my "move" on the FT than here.



I dont see him checking his BB - not in his nature with an Ace or two big cards
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2006, 02:01:29 AM »

Yep, I understand the 4k raise - was answering newmanseye, not you m8

Reason for asking is this - same tourney 2 nights running I have exited in 10th spot with the same (just under av stack) situation. mid PP in SB vs aggressive BB. - both times loosing alot of chips about 20 minutes prior

Yesterday ran into AJ
Today ran into AQ

Now my opinion is that I want to win the damn thing - and am happy to take an advantage to the flop to double up - just wanted to make sure I am not slipping into bad habbits.

Just bad luck m8.

I am having a cool week aswell, 26 comps played this week, 0 cashed Sad
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2006, 02:07:33 AM »

You make a great point Paul, I just find when i get to this stage most of the players have moved in to hyper aggressive mode and you may very well make the final by playing the 7's passivley rather than take a coin flip, its a lot of work to get within a ballhair of the finish line and fluff it on a 50/50 - 60/40.

Just my opinion of it, I think there are better spots to get your money in.
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2006, 02:10:41 AM »

You make a great point Paul, I just find when i get to this stage most of the players have moved in to hyper aggressive mode and you may very well make the final by playing the 7's passivley rather than take a coin flip, its a lot of work to get within a ballhair of the finish line and fluff it on a 50/50 - 60/40.

Just my opinion of it, I think there are better spots to get your money in.

The comp pays 6, coming 9th 8th or 7th is just the same.
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2006, 02:13:04 AM »

Also 1st pays $4k whereas 6th pays $400

Like i said, i wanna win it, or at least take a decent stack to the final so I can actually play some poker - not just "all in" mode

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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2006, 02:14:02 AM »

its not like he is assured of getting called tho, you are speaking as though Paul has the option of either flipping for his stack of folding and waiting

Lets say the villain knows Pauls hand, and profitably calls with any 2 overcard combination, or any higher pocket pair.. theres 378 combinations he can get dealt, out of 1225.. so a mere 30% Paul gets called, even in this worst case "i know my opponents cards" scenario.






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