Too Aggressive??

[M3boy]

Status is 18 left - money started at 54

570 players entered

$50k guaranteed

I have just above average chips and blinds about to goto next level

Seat 2: ME (83,829)
Seat 3: brentblack83 (36,716)
Seat 5: BAZMAN1 (15,625)
Seat 6: cblady (130,117)
Seat 7: gopsiliev (62,104)
Seat 8: SOAMelt (184,259)
Seat 9: Parafrayz (94,762)
ME antes 400
brentblack83 antes 400
BAZMAN1 antes 400
cblady antes 400
gopsiliev antes 400
SOAMelt antes 400
Parafrayz antes 400
Parafrayz posts the small blind of 1,500
ME posts the big blind of 3,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ME [ ]
brentblack83 raises to 8,000
BAZMAN1 folds
cblady calls 8,000
gopsiliev folds
SOAMelt folds
Parafrayz folds
ME calls 5,000
*** FLOP *** [ ]
ME bets 15,000
brentblack83 raises to 28,316, and is all in
cblady folds
ME has 15 seconds left to act
ME calls 13,316
brentblack83 shows [ ]
ME shows [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
brentblack83 shows two pair, Nines and Fours
ME shows two pair, Sevens and Fours
brentblack83 wins the pot (84,932) with two pair, Nines and Fours
ME: vnh
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 84,932 | Rake 0
Board: [ ]
Seat 2: ME (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Fours
Seat 3: brentblack83 showed [ ] and won (84,932) with two pair, Nines and Fours
Seat 5: BAZMAN1 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: cblady folded on the Flop
Seat 7: gopsiliev folded before the Flop
Seat 8: SOAMelt (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Parafrayz (small blind) folded before the Flop

Now I think I bet too much on the flop as I am committed to call the re raise - opinions?

[GlasgowBandit]

I agree with you and its a situation I hate being in when I have an overpair to the board  your really hopping for a race at worse in this situation against AK or AQ something like that.

UL though sometimes you just need to fire your chips in if your going to win the tourney rather than lingering about lower payout levels.

[M3boy]

Well that hand didnt put me out, I still had 40,000 odd. But with Blinds 2000 4000 was a litle short.

I find AJ on the button and move in. The SB eventually calls with AQ - which held up.

I have been replaying that 77 hand and cannot see how I could of played it differently without the same result. Can anyone else?

[NoflopsHomer]

Well that hand didnt put me out, I still had 40,000 odd. But with Blinds 2000 4000 was a litle short.

I find AJ on the button and move in. The SB eventually calls with AQ - which held up.

I have been replaying that 77 hand and cannot see how I could of played it differently without the same result. Can anyone else?

No, but it is an UTG raise from a shorty with a flat-call from a big stack, so passing preflop isn't a bad option, it's quite possible one of them has a bigger pair than you. Once the flop comes, you don't get away.

[M3boy]

You cannot pass from the BB for a standard raise when holding 77 - with so much money in the pot, that seems a very negative play to me.

The only way I see of getting away here is to check the flop - the shorty then moves all in (which he would do with 2 overs) The big stack passes - then you pass as well??? I dont think so.

Just one of those hands I was loosing chips on - Unless anyone else has other ideas?

I was still pleased with the result, large field and tough competition- on the bubble (being 54) I only had 8 big blinds !!! (8000 chips)

[boldie]

i agree...this is just one of those hands I guess. nothing else you could do here IMO.

[Royal Flush]

Nothing you could do Paul, perfect call pre flop. Just a sick flop, "no set no bet" is ok in deep stacked comps but i dont see how you can do it here. I bet more on the flop though. There is 28k out there bet 20k make it harder for AK to go in.

[M3boy]

To be honest James, thats what I had the "shorty" on. AK

Thats why I priced him in - and also if the Big Stack moved all in on the flop, I can get away.

I am working very hard on my tournament game just lately, trying to move to the "next level" of playing the streets later in tourneys by calling peoples standard raises and looking for weekness - hard to do but something I have to work on. Here is an example of what I mean :

FullTiltPoker Game #1031773567: $50,000 Guarantee (6388147), Table 5 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:46:06 ET - 2006/09/23
Seat 1: buyrum (36,179)
Seat 2: ME (25,011)
Seat 3: brentblack83 (26,172)
Seat 4: no mercie (38,692)
Seat 5: BAZMAN1 (50,229)
Seat 6: JorJen (33,457)
Seat 7: gopsiliev (50,021)
Seat 8: stickelistack (53,087)
Seat 9: beland66 (44,848)
buyrum antes 200
ME antes 200
brentblack83 antes 200
no mercie antes 200
BAZMAN1 antes 200
JorJen antes 200
gopsiliev antes 200
stickelistack antes 200
beland66 antes 200
buyrum posts the small blind of 800
ME posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ME [ ]
brentblack83 folds
no mercie folds
BAZMAN1 folds
JorJen folds
gopsiliev folds
stickelistack raises to 3,500
beland66 folds
buyrum folds
ME has 15 seconds left to act
ME calls 1,900
*** FLOP *** [ ]
ME checks
stickelistack bets 4,600
ME calls 4,600
*** TURN *** [ ] []
ME bets 6,400
stickelistack has 15 seconds left to act
stickelistack folds
Uncalled bet of 6,400 returned to ME
ME mucks
ME wins the pot (18,800)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18,800 | Rake 0
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: buyrum (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: ME (big blind) collected (18,800), mucked
Seat 3: brentblack83 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: no mercie folded before the Flop
Seat 5: BAZMAN1 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: JorJen folded before the Flop
Seat 7: gopsiliev folded before the Flop
Seat 8: stickelistack folded on the Turn
Seat 9: beland66 (button) folded before the Flop

He had been raising alot, and I didnt take him for a Queen on the flop, so bet out on the turn to take the pot.

[Royal Flush]

Yeah i think i probably check raise the flop, if i get in the hand too deep i want to get 2 cards to hit! lol.

[SupaMonkey]

I woulda moved in preflop in your first one. You have the perfect squeeze play. The shortie would probably still call the all in in this case but i think there was nothing you could have done postflop.