OK stupid question but.......

[Royal Flush]

It's a prevention law. They are just going to make it hard to deposit. If you don't use a US bank you will be fine anywhere.

Not so. Many of these companies will now not let you log in when you are on US soil. I could not access Betfair Poker from Vegas and I believe Will Hill have now also prevented people logging in from the US. It is almost certain that Party and 888 will also prevent players from the US being able to log in as well and if Stars, Empire, Paradise, Full Tilt and UB do the same, then that is pretty much it for US online players. There will be ways around it, but only a small minority of players will go down this route. The days of ever increasing prize pools online and weekly million dollar tournaments are numbered.

Was that not just the hotel ISP blocking you from playing? To get you downstairs paying them?

so that means plenty of UK players leaving the american sites because of falling numbers etc ... good news for sites that dont allow American registrations then    ... they will all join blonde

Golden Palace and Doyles Room leaving the network would hurt it quite badly.

[MadYank]

I think this depends on how the individual sites enfore their US restrictions.

There seems 2 ways to go about it.
1) Just block all US based IPs and then anyone in the USA (whether American or no American) wil be fooked.
2) Only block those accounts with US addresses then only those with these US regs will be locked.

Obviously option 2 is far favorable but may be a bit dodgy when faced by the law.

I clearly hope for option2 in that most of my accounts have UK regs.
But as already been pointed out some sites have blocked US IPs completely (such as Betfair) so this may be  he horro road ahead. ARRRRGH! Might be back to Nuclear Engineering for me. Unless of course flushy wans to marry me so I can get Uk citizenship  

[tikay]

So if the American market collapses, where are the marketing arms of the Online Rooms gonna spend all their money?.....

[ariston]

funny you should say that tony.........keep your eyes open over the next few weeks mate

[AlrightJack]

It's a prevention law. They are just going to make it hard to deposit. If you don't use a US bank you will be fine anywhere.

Not so. Many of these companies will now not let you log in when you are on US soil. I could not access Betfair Poker from Vegas and I believe Will Hill have now also prevented people logging in from the US. It is almost certain that Party and 888 will also prevent players from the US being able to log in as well and if Stars, Empire, Paradise, Full Tilt and UB do the same, then that is pretty much it for US online players. There will be ways around it, but only a small minority of players will go down this route. The days of ever increasing prize pools online and weekly million dollar tournaments are numbered.

Was that not just the hotel ISP blocking you from playing? To get you downstairs paying them?

No, it was a message from Betfair saying that I was trying to access from a banned territory. Other sites I could still access.

Why are you finding this so hard to believe Flushy? If the sites comply with the US, that is it for all but the most determined of US players.

[Ironside]

So if the American market collapses, where are the marketing arms of the Online Rooms gonna spend all their money?.....

there wont be so much money in the hands of the marketing men because the turn over of the sites will be crippled

[mikkyT]

what are the motives for this move by the US government?
are they trying to force these poker companies to pay a higher tax or rates or something?

These companies dont pay any tax, they are all off shore Hence the US government and its fundraisers (B&M casino lobbys and the like) throwings its dummies out of the pram cos they dont get a cent from all the US $$$ that is going offshore.

[Royal Flush]

Why are you finding this so hard to believe Flushy?

Finding what hard to believe, i was just asking a question! The other cryptoskins like inter poker, do they still allow americans?

MadYank, only if i am the groom.

[MadYank]

funny you should say that tony.........keep your eyes open over the next few weeks mate

Oh Dear! Don't tell me Ariston just got a $4M sponsrship deal?

[AndrewT]

what are the motives for this move by the US government?
are they trying to force these poker companies to pay a higher tax or rates or something?

The poker companies currently pay US taxes at the rate of 0%.

Uncle Sam isn't happy about this - he wants his slice of the pie. Unfortunately, because all the poker companies are offshore, there's nothing he can do to get any money from them.

The only way he can make money from online poker would be from companies which are based in the US. But, even if internet poker were legalised, a domestic company wouldn't be able to make inroads into the poker market because Party, Pokerstars et al have it all locked up, and they're obviously not going to move back to the US because it would mean paying taxes.

Of course, one solution would be to completely ban all Americans from playing poker, destroy the major poker rooms' user base, and then, at some point in the future, allow US citizens to play internet poker only at poker rooms which are properly regulated and licenced by the US Government. Which would, of course be situated in the US. And pay taxes there.

Aren't Harrahs getting awfully big?

[AlrightJack]

what are the motives for this move by the US government?
are they trying to force these poker companies to pay a higher tax or rates or something?

These companies dont pay any tax, they are all off shore Hence the US government and its fundraisers (B&M casino lobbys and the like) throwings its dummies out of the pram cos they dont get a cent from all the US $$$ that is going offshore.

Most of these companies are only offshore out of neccessity. If they had been allowed to set up their businesses in the US in the first place, most would have done so. The US did not allow them to locate within America. The US government didn't want their tax in the first place and have now clearly demonstrated that they still don't want it.

[Ironside]

funny you should say that tony.........keep your eyes open over the next few weeks mate

Oh Dear! Don't tell me Ariston just got a $4M sponsrship deal?

please tell me he got a $4M deal it would be the best news a poker player could hear all that money in the hands of a fish

[MadYank]

MadYank, only if i am the groom.

Sweet! Shall we book a date? Perhaps dear ole Uncle Elton will let us use his castle.

P.S. DO  you really want to see madyank in a dress?

[mikkyT]

It's a prevention law. They are just going to make it hard to deposit. If you don't use a US bank you will be fine anywhere.

Not so. Many of these companies will now not let you log in when you are on US soil. I could not access Betfair Poker from Vegas and I believe Will Hill have now also prevented people logging in from the US. It is almost certain that Party and 888 will also prevent players from the US being able to log in as well and if Stars, Empire, Paradise, Full Tilt and UB do the same, then that is pretty much it for US online players. There will be ways around it, but only a small minority of players will go down this route. The days of ever increasing prize pools online and weekly million dollar tournaments are numbered.

Was that not just the hotel ISP blocking you from playing? To get you downstairs paying them?

No, it was a message from Betfair saying that I was trying to access from a banned territory. Other sites I could still access.

Why are you finding this so hard to believe Flushy? If the sites comply with the US, that is it for all but the most determined of US players.

Why all but the most determined? Google for "anonymous proxy" and you will find a good number of circumvention tools that take all of a couple of mins to download install and set up.

The trick is then to use ProxyCap to transfer all your internet traffic through the proxy and voila, an international IP address in the country of your choosing...

[AlrightJack]

Why are you finding this so hard to believe Flushy?

Finding what hard to believe, i was just asking a question! The other cryptoskins like inter poker, do they still allow americans?

You were finding it hard to believe that a site like Betfair would block US IPs.