Grosvenor Grand Prix

[Dubai]

Not only is this a ridiculous format in which you cant buyin, they now offer odds on it.


How on earth can Flushy be 250-1 against this group of animals? 100 qualifiers in for the minimum, 200 players skint, and yet Lucy Rokach 80-1. Sentimental betting? Well anyone believes im wrong they can stake her headsup v me for anything they like, il even lay odds against.


Come on FLUSHY you can beat this joke field, 250-1 is a damn right insult.

[Dubai]

How can you have a tournament where you cant pay for an entry? Utterly ridiculous in a game dominated by money such as poker.

[AlrightJack]

It was meant to be an insult to Flushy, in a good humoured sort of way. He knows it and takes no offence.

80-1 Lucy Rokach is hardly sentimental betting. Two years ago she would have been one of the favourites.

If you think the format is ridiculous, you don't have to take part, but why do you think that only allowing players to qualify into an event rather than buying in directly makes it ridiculous?

[AlrightJack]

How can you have a tournament where you cant pay for an entry? Utterly ridiculous in a game dominated by money such as poker.

You still have to pay money to try to qualify.

Utterly ridiculous that you feel the need to rubbish it.

[Dubai]

It devalues the prestige of an event. Can you imagine Roger Federer having to travel to Blackpool so that he can play at Wimbledon? Or Tiger Woods having to travel to Skegness to play the Open? Insane.

I think its ridiculous you feel the need to defend it. Poker is a game that is about money. You pay your money, you take your place. Having a qualification only tournament is a joke.

[AlrightJack]

It devalues the prestige of an event. Can you imagine Roger Federer having to travel to Blackpool so that he can play at Wimbledon? Or Tiger Woods having to travel to Skegness to play the Open? Insane.

I think its ridiculous you feel the need to defend it. Poker is a game that is about money. You pay your money, you take your place. Having a qualification only tournament is a joke.

The Grand Prix is something different. It is not pretending to be a tournament with the best quality field. It is not trying to be a Wimbledon or an Open. It is still however the biggest Pot Limit tournament in Europe and its appeal is growing year upon year. The prize pool is over £300,000, which for a £100 rebuy tournament, is not bad. The Grand Prix is open to all, but to make it to the finals in Walsall, you have to finish in the top 15% of any one of the 60+ qualifiers that have been held all over the country and online. The fact that so many pro players try to qualify (and they don't all make it) is a testimony to its appeal.

[Dubai]

"The fact that so many pro players try to qualify (and they don't all make it) is a testimony to its appeal."

This just shows how desperate these so called "pros" are to play in a weak field if you ask me, excluding people from entry into a poker tournament goes against everything that poker represents imo. Its a joke event where the result is meaningless because it excludes a large number of players which would wish to play.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

I cant see what is wrong with it? What is wrong with having a qualification only event? It's something different, and IMO a good idea. If you couldnt see the flushy odds as a joke, well, i dont know what to say. Oh, and by the way, he was 251/1 not 250.

[AlrightJack]

There is no point in trying to debate with someone who merely wishes to flame.

[Dubai]

The facts are, I have no reason to flame, you have a million reasons to defend.

[AlrightJack]

You may have no reason to flame, but you did.

Putting Lucy down in the way you did and making repeated posts stating that it is a joke event and ridiculous is flaming.

I did not come up with the format of the Grand Prix but yes I am heavily involved with it and all Grosvenor events, but I expect that when the rest of the forum wakes up tomorrow, there will be many people who do not have a vested interest in the running of the event who will back me up.

[Dubai]

Im entitled to my opinion about Lucy. If you disagree then get Blue Square to put up her stake to play me headsup in a best of 3, decent structured tourny for 5k. 80-1 is a sentimental price. In poker you back your opinions up with money, im willing to do this. Are you?

[Dubai]

And  if you think i give a toss what anyone on here thinks you are badly mistaken. If they agree with you thats fine and they are entitled to their opinion but so am I, and i will express it as i choose fit.

[mikkyT]

Not only is this a ridiculous format in which you cant buyin, they now offer odds on it.


How on earth can Flushy be 250-1 against this group of animals? 100 qualifiers in for the minimum, 200 players skint, and yet Lucy Rokach 80-1. Sentimental betting? Well anyone believes im wrong they can stake her headsup v me for anything they like, il even lay odds against.


Come on FLUSHY you can beat this joke field, 250-1 is a damn right insult.

Please correct your information. Flushy is NOT 250-1.

250-1 would be a bit generous.

[AlrightJack]

Im entitled to my opinion about Lucy. If you disagree then get Blue Square to put up her stake to play me headsup in a best of 3, decent structured tourny for 5k. 80-1 is a sentimental price. In poker you back your opinions up with money, im willing to do this. Are you?

Why don't you just challenge her directly yourself?