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« Reply #210 on: October 15, 2006, 10:39:23 PM »

Its for reasons like this IMO that Poker is behind many other pursuits.  When people are talking about re-distributing the wealth of the prizepool with 13 players remainng its a joke.

Half the time I don't see the point in tournaments continuing once they reach a final table. 

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« Reply #211 on: October 15, 2006, 10:42:17 PM »

Its for reasons like this IMO that Poker is behind many other pursuits.  When people are talking about re-distributing the wealth of the prizepool with 13 players remainng its a joke.

Half the time I don't see the point in tournaments continuing once they reach a final table. 



put yourself in the players shoes. Say you had 90 odd k and less than 7BB and the deal is offered, would you turn it down?
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« Reply #212 on: October 15, 2006, 10:43:22 PM »

I think the fast structure had a lot to do with this one.

Massive jump in prize structure and a short-stacked crapshoot = certain deal.

I don't recall things being this bad last year in terms of structure.  What's changed this time around?

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« Reply #213 on: October 15, 2006, 10:44:20 PM »

i have been lucky enough to have been in a few finals myself and will allways try to have a deal, but to have a deal with 13 or14 players left is mad, you will get short stacks and others who are happy with 10k just throwing there chips in, thus not helping the more skillfull players.
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« Reply #214 on: October 15, 2006, 10:48:03 PM »

Great deal for the short stacks but why on earth would the chipleaders agree to this?
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« Reply #215 on: October 15, 2006, 10:48:56 PM »

Its for reasons like this IMO that Poker is behind many other pursuits.  When people are talking about re-distributing the wealth of the prizepool with 13 players remainng its a joke.

Half the time I don't see the point in tournaments continuing once they reach a final table. 



put yourself in the players shoes. Say you had 90 odd k and less than 7BB and the deal is offered, would you turn it down?

I can understand the reasons behind it, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them.  Doing a deal 13 handed is bordering on a joke IMO.

I personally reckon the gaming board should step in and outlaw deals.   If poker ever wants to ever be taken seriously then these sort of things have to be put to bed.
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« Reply #216 on: October 15, 2006, 10:49:50 PM »

Great deal for the short stacks but why on earth would the chipleaders agree to this?

Exactley!!
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« Reply #217 on: October 15, 2006, 10:50:07 PM »

Its for reasons like this IMO that Poker is behind many other pursuits.  When people are talking about re-distributing the wealth of the prizepool with 13 players remainng its a joke.

Half the time I don't see the point in tournaments continuing once they reach a final table. 



put yourself in the players shoes. Say you had 90 odd k and less than 7BB and the deal is offered, would you turn it down?

I can understand the reasons behind it, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them.  Doing a deal 13 handed is bordering on a joke IMO.

I personally reckon the gaming board should step in and outlaw deals.   If poker ever wants to ever be taken seriously then these sort of things have to be put to bed.

wtf has it got to do with the gaming board?
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« Reply #218 on: October 15, 2006, 10:51:49 PM »

has zippy just knocked alex out !!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #219 on: October 15, 2006, 10:52:20 PM »

It's a shame that what could have a great event has been spoiled by poor stuctures.

The qualifiers (live) were crapshoots as well as far as I could tell from the updates.

If events like this want to be taken seriously then they should provide a decent structure.
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« Reply #220 on: October 15, 2006, 10:52:21 PM »

Its for reasons like this IMO that Poker is behind many other pursuits.  When people are talking about re-distributing the wealth of the prizepool with 13 players remainng its a joke.

Half the time I don't see the point in tournaments continuing once they reach a final table. 



I think it's a very good deal for all concerned. 13th was going to only get £1,500 and even 8th gets just £5,200. Apart from MrAlex2u, most had solid stacks yet only around 12- 18 BB's where one coinflip or outdraw could easily cost them tens of thousands of pounds. Now everyone gets 6th place money of £10,000 and the chance of £75,000 still. This is a decision entirely influenced by the structure.

Alex 'MrAlex2u' has just gone in 13th with against Zippy's pocket . He's happy with the deal (as he would be obviously) but everyone else from chip leader Mick Fletcher with about 300k to Robert Romanello with 250k, agreed with it too. And there's still very good money from 1st to 5th anyway.
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« Reply #221 on: October 15, 2006, 10:53:07 PM »

Great deal for the short stacks but why on earth would the chipleaders agree to this?

Perhaps it's the pressure of 10 other players proposing a deal. Not sure.
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« Reply #222 on: October 15, 2006, 10:54:10 PM »

well played alex
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« Reply #223 on: October 15, 2006, 10:54:43 PM »

Great deal for the short stacks but why on earth would the chipleaders agree to this?

Why shouldn't he?

If any of the other stacks double through Roberto or Mick, then these two would be seriously crippled and unlikely to get a big pay-out.
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« Reply #224 on: October 15, 2006, 10:55:35 PM »

I guess for most the players in this comp, the difference between winning 75k and 100k isn't that great, yet going home with 10k rather than 1k is huge.
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