Re-raise? String bet?

[dik9]

OK, I was watching the second hand of this, there is a small raise by the 9,10 and Hung announced re-raise with AK, because he put the call in after he announced re-raise, he was deemed to have string betted and was only allowed to raise the minimum?

************   Late night poker Ace episode 4 at about 4minutes 30 seconds into the program.

Serious question, as I would have allowed him to state his raise, please discuss,,,,,,,

[TightEnd]

surely the verbal declaration goes and he can raise whatever he likes? seems odd to me.


many players say re-raise, put the "call" chips in, and then work out how much to re-raise and aren't called for stringing wherever I play live.

[dik9]

I thought this too, but who am i to argue with Mr Kremser

[boldie]

surely the verbal declaration goes and he can raise whatever he likes? seems odd to me.


many players say re-raise, put the "call" chips in, and then work out how much to re-raise and aren't called for stringing wherever I play live.

yep...the declaration should be good IMO BUT I have seen it many a time, as soon as you stick some chips in it's a minimum raise in some places.

again, as the old master (TK) said many a time, Poker has never bothered working out the rules and so the rules are different everywhere.

Pathetic really.

[dik9]

It does actually make sense, If you remember the thread that was posted by Tikay, it would solve the problem of 3 people passing after announced, as they would know what bet they are passing too, and it would stop people looking for a reaction after the raise was announced, and THEN deciding to to state what the raise actually is. So it does eliminate a possible stroke.

I am undecided now

I have always allowed people to make their raise (after announced) after putting their call in. Never had a problem before?

[boldie]

It does actually make sense, If you remember the thread that was posted by Tikay, it would solve the problem of 3 people passing after announced, as they would know what bet they are passing too, and it would stop people looking for a reaction after the raise was announced, and THEN deciding to to state what the raise actually is. So it does eliminate a possible stroke.

I am undecided now

I have always allowed people to make their raise (after announced) after putting their call in. Never had a problem before?

I am not saying it is wrong or right...I don't really care either way...if people raise me the raise can be whatever they want I will never accuse them of string betting in a situation like this, but I'm fine with people calling it string betting.

We just need consistency..and ATM there isn't any in poker. (TK, by pointing out the obvious lack of consistency and how pathetic this is,  has actually made this a pet peeve of mine as well now...damn him..as if I didn't have enough of those.)


edit* spelling.

[londonpokergirl]

The raise is legitimate, he announced re-raise first.  He was just making up the chips to call before he puts in the re-raise part.

Ruling is wrong in my opinion

[TightEnd]

The raise is legitimate, he announced re-raise first.  He was just making up the chips to call before he puts in the re-raise part.

Ruling is wrong in my opinion

clearly the wrong choice of TD. What were Party thinking of?

[NoflopsHomer]

surely the verbal declaration goes and he can raise whatever he likes? seems odd to me.


many players say re-raise, put the "call" chips in, and then work out how much to re-raise and aren't called for stringing wherever I play live.

That's how they were all doing it at Walsall for the PL tournament.

[Royal Flush]

The raise is legitimate, he announced re-raise first.  He was just making up the chips to call before he puts in the re-raise part.

Ruling is wrong in my opinion

clearly the wrong choice of TD. What were Party thinking of?

 

[MrsLime]

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[Royal Flush]

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[boldie]

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[kvnstv]

Can I ask a few novicey questions of the great minds of blonde please.

If someone raises infront of me do I have to say re-raise or can I just say raise?

If I verbalise the bet and say reraise and the amount can I then put the chips in any way I like?


NB:
I got pulled up at the Broadway for saying raise 3,000 after a raise and then knocking my chips all other the shop like the big steaming haddock I am.

[doubleup]

Good ruling!

Say re-raise, count your chips behind the sometimes imaginary line, and put them in.

There is absolutely no need to put in the chips in stages.